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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) The usual madness, John? We are amongst the most incarcerated people of any nation, and this is by percentage, not just numbers. Why do you suppose that is? One reason, and there are many others, is that we'd rather treat our drug addicts (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) In school (we are talking about PoA in public school) the pressure may come from the teacher, the state, classmates, or a combination of them. It happens all the time. It has been noted here before, but you seem to ignore the point. Claiming (...) (22 years ago, 1-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) Well, let's compare apples to apples here. I said greatest nation-- you can hardly compare a nation to a civilization. Take either (...) ...please. (apologizes to Henny;-) which are still very vital world communities today. That's putting it (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) free of "Canada's Better, no the US is better" rhetoric): (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) (URL) Dave! (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) I know this is bad form, but I have to apologize for this statement-- I admit I was shooting from the hip there. But here is an evaluation of Norway allegedly being the best place on earth to live (and it's by a Norwegian, no less): (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Are some of you guys making it too easy on the rest of us?
(...) My assertion was among career politicians (all politicians), the ones over 20 years of service would be 5:1 Democrat. I just pulled that ratio out of the air. His sample really had nothing to do with my hypothesis. -John (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) The Chinese sold pasta to italian merchants. They "invented" gunpowder (I am not sure of the date, though). And they chose the ultimate path a great civilization can afford to, they ignored the rest of us because they could afford to. And up (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) Foundation. The fact that he's right is irrelevant. (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) No, welcome! I'd acknowledge the United Kingdom as the greatest nation the world (...) That's funny. For those reasons the US gets criticized bitterly... (...) Yeah, and life in Britian became so intolerable for some that they left it to (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) It may be because of immigration regulations. (...) That sounds quite a bit simplified. The majority of immigrants come from neighboring countries. There have been a fair number of immigrants from Sweden lately, and they generally move over (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: US healthcare (was: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.)
(...) I was careful not to mention the "poor". My comments focus on those just above the safety net and also do not include any “churn”. Scott A (22 years ago, 4-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) Freedom of Speech can be restricted by requirements of circumstance and profession. If W announced that we were about to obliterate Canada with nuclear bombardment and said that we've just launched the missiles, would you say "oh, that's just (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) And I guess that's also the point here--the gov't can say, 'Yes, we as a nation believe there's a God, but the individuals in the nation can believe whatever they please' and do this without having a 'State Run Religion'. Anywho, this has been (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) I'm not looking up the specifics, but as I recall, in the first years of the Supreme Court, maybe during the reign of Madison(?), the court decided that some big name law passed by Congress (that we should all remember, but I can't) was (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		US healthcare (was: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.)
(...) millions? This common stance ignores the fact that our poor often (at least) obtain medical care when it is needed. When I was a child, our family was poor. I was, however, vacinated at county clinics, had my tonsils removed when I was three, (...) (22 years ago, 4-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) OK, against my better judgement I'm going to wade in here. Thank you John for providing your very simple method of calculating greatness (with which I do not agree but I think coming up with a formula for such a thing would be like nailing (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) Even here on (...) I'm going to forgive your foray off-topic in this NG just this once if you tell us and tell us NOW who knows what:-) (...) I would say that your characterization is slightly off-- should be whether the inclusion of "under (...) (22 years ago, 2-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) Most people don't know that the US Army's Psychological Operations sends it's members out as interns at US news organizations. Think I'm kidding? (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
(...) I'm in full agreement with taking into consideration previous civilizations as greater in influence than what is currently the USA of today. Take either China or Egypt, which are still very vital world communities today. Most everything we (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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