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  Re: The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
 
(...) Yeah, that baffles me, too. For any physical entity or object, it seems that "existence" doesn't simply imply "a place to exist," it expressly *includes* a place to exist. Not necessarily this plot of land or that particular country, but (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, property
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  Matthew jumps in (was Re: Goodness of Man?, etc.)
 
(...) I don't understand the basis for the assertion that property rights are the basis for all other rights. Where do property rights come from? What makes that a privledged right above any other I can imagine? Arguments for this I've seen that I (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Should AFOL websites keep to themselves?
 
(...) Well, here's an important distinction: who's doing the saying? And in what capacity? Let's say AFOLS.com is run by Mortimer. And a frequent visitor to the AFOLS.com is Jezebelle. And there's another site called LEGOGEEKS.com, which they hate. (...) (17 years ago, 10-Apr-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 

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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) That's fine, but I am going to try to show that life-affirming REQUIRES property rights because of the nature of man. That is, to not recognise them is to be anti life affirming, or in other words if you want to be human, you have to recognise (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) First, I want to make a distinction between "not life-affirming" and "anti life-affirming." It's possible for something to not necessarily go out of it's way to affirm life, yet not deny it either. Anyway: There may be potential rights that (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
 
(...) Not a right to support (at least in any but the vaguest of senses) just a right to a place. In what I understand of libertopia, it would be theoretically possible for one person to buy up all the land and not allow anyone else to be there. (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, property
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  Re: IP (was: Re: Any suggestions on a homepage?)
 
(...) What I am talking abouit is where I use a desktop-class machine, sold by say Compaq (because I have a contract with them to supply all my machinery), instead of the server class machine or router they wopuld otherwise have sold me. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
 
(...) Buried in that other people aren't contributing their thoughts because they're too wrapped up in the more emotionally satisfying debates about unsolvable situations in the Middle East? Or buried in that _you_ are too busy in the other thread? (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
OK, we need to back up. (...) Can you restate this? Are you stating that there are rights, or that there should be rights, that are not life affirming, that is, that are actually "wrong" using the "morally good" = "valid" = "life affirming" test? Or (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) I'm OK with that. (...) Reminder, under the premise we agreed upon, if it requires force initiation, it's not a right. This will be used to eliminate some things tentatively labeled rights, below. (...) not sure I understand the question. A (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) Yes. But fraud is a crime against you that takes PROPERTY away. I tried to kill this one once but Matt is right, without the "you have the right to have property" right, this one is slippery and he can keep wiggling all day long. I can claim (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: Freedom from information
 
(...) In the interest of full disclosure, I must admit that I haven't listened to him at all for several years, except for an occasional snippet while I'm driving. When I did listen, he played at least as fast-and-loose with facts as Moore does, and (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) Can you at least quick state your answers to the first two questions I asked, so the problem is clear? (If you don't want to argue from a natural rights basis, I need to ask some different questions.) (...) I will be there. But, I'd rather (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: 'Lego Ban' at Seattle School Fueled by Anti-Private Property Crusaders
 
(...) Hmm. If I was a kid in this class I'd steal my teacher's car. How could they press charges, given their professed beliefs? Bruce (18 years ago, 28-Feb-07, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

property
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  IP (was: Re: Any suggestions on a homepage?)
 
(...) You can see content when you "view source"... Anyway, how do you make that view jive with your copyright views? Let's get back to those, in a separate thread. I can't even find the appropriate posts anymore. You've said earlier that you think (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) I should point out that I accept "life-affirming" as a test for whether something is good or bad, not for whether it exists. (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) We're not stuck on this planet. You can, with current technology, go to the moon/Mars and live there. It would merely cost immense amounts of money, but that's irrelevant. (...) Given that the notion of 'country' historically really rests on (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) Yes, the social contract argument is one that's familiar to me and in fact has been advanced here in this very group before, although not very crisply, to my way of thinking. It was more along the lines of "my country, love it or leave it" (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: stuff (was: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Any tax, across the board, incents some behaviours and disincents others. Broadly, there seem to be at least three classes of taxation, although there may be others. These are: Income - a tax on the production of wealth Sales - a tax on the (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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  Re: ("life affirming" == "no initiation of force") == "all rigihts are property rights"?
 
(...) Absolutely. What I disagree with is the libertarian view that their resolution is the only possible "right" one. As soon as resolution of conflicts comes into play, the possible solution to the problem ambiguate. In the case of an entire (...) (25 years ago, 9-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

all, rights, property
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