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		Re: My over-simplification of the anti-war movement
(...) BuzzFlash asks Greg Palast: "What the Heck is Going on With Tony Blair?" (URL) Tony has figured out a way to shoot down a couple of enemies at once. All politics is local, including international relations. Tony Blair is using the war on (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: My over-simplification of the anti-war movement
(...) Well, it is a simplification of things -- but the pro-peace movement also needs its own soundbite. "No blood for oil!" has been a kind of code for larger issues, obviously. Ignoring ethical concerns for now, longer-term I can't see the (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Rights to free goods? (was Re: What happened?
(...) That's ridiculous. First, if I do stop using these government "services" (as if that were possible) would I then be free of a tax obligation? For the answer, ask home-owners who send their kids to private schools (like me) because public (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: My over-simplification of the anti-war movement
(...) I'm just not familiar enough with Blair to say, beyond I suspect he likes the idea of acting tough. Bush probably has several agendas, though the weight of each is unknown: Inherited hostility: The enemy of my father is my enemy. Though Bush (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		My over-simplification of the anti-war movement
I don’t have the chance to respond with the same level of frequency here on OTD as many of the regulars, so this may sound like a hit and run, as I will voice my opinion and probably not respond to rebuttals in a timely fashion. I, however, desired (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: My over-simplification of the anti-war movement
I actually do agree with you on a few points here. I agree that Bush’s diplomacy was imperfect. I, however, believe the other side. I think he spent far too much time in debate and discussion. I have little patience for diplomatic posturing and (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Outrageous Iraqi Geneva Convention Violation
(...) The US is mostly good (light grey) and the SH regime is almost completely bad (I can't think of anything good about it at the moment, but maybe there is somewhere some bureaucrat within it doing good). The Geneva convention has been mostly (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) Yes, Larry has a "tiresome" way of asserting the existence of some arguments that should silence us all, but then never actually putting any of these things into words. It's as if he sits there smug and superior, knowing all and revealing (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) All I know is that JRRT used to get his "knickers in a knot" anytime someone brought up the idea that LoTR alluded to the situation in Britain before, during and after the war. I (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Frog Apologizes and Shuts Up (at least for now)
(...) Maybe I'm thicker skinned than most. If we're all adults here, and we behave in an adult fashion in these discussions... I dunno. I never got the 'ignore him 'cause he's no good to this group.' I find that many many posts from Scott Arthur are (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: An interesting find
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: And it's not>sour grapes, by the way--the actions of Jeb and Harris prior to the >2000 (...) You know what-- voting irregularities occur all of the time and all over the place. Only because Florida (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
"David Koudys" <dkoudys@redeemer.on.ca> wrote in message (...) "The Songs of Distant Earth", IMHO one of the best books of all time, if not the best. See also the Mike Oldfield "Soundtrack" of the same title, also amazing. With regard to (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) And yet you deleted all the stuff where I disprove this question--it's one of your very own straw men. How can you ask, "Is this superior to that" without qualifications? Canada's geographically bigger than the USA therefore we're superior. Is (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
(...) Snip out all the stuff. Whatever. If your gov't is allowing oppression in certain countries because it suits your countrys needs and wants, and yet goes to wars with other countries because it suits your needs--I like how Iraq is an American (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Perl rules!
(...) I didn't mean to say that it was necessary for a language to be "high level" but it certainly is a common property of high-level langauges (for example Lisp/Scheme, Logo, PostScript*, and Perl). (...) It certainly has a variety of mis-uses, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jun-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)

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		J.C. in Iraq (or baiting the republican troll)
'Poised and Ready' The evangelist who called Islam 'wicked' is ready to bring humanitarian aid to Muslims in Iraq. (URL) Hooper, from the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said evangelical groups bent on converting Muslims often go into (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Just Teasing, I Have No Intention of Debating Any of This...
(...) News Flash--nothing is perfect. Not to bring religion into it, but we live in a fallen world. Beyond the religions scope, Democracy is the 'lesser of all evils". Heck, you and I don't even live in a pure democratic society, and basically used (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Frog Apologizes and Shuts Up (at least for now)
(...) Whether any particular person has thick enough skin to not allow rudeness to effect his emotional state doesn't change the rudeness. Richard is traditionally much more clever in his responses to people than he has been in the past weeks when (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: "gutless" bush?
(...) All sarcasm is lost on him, but I digress. (...) I think you mean "Secret Service", but there are those that would argue that your statement is equivalent to the one made by Dave! They may seem to have different words but they come out to the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
(...) Yeah, how Star Trek basically trashed anything 'non-human'--the Q Continuum-supreme beings acting like spoiled children and needing our humanity to temper them--and as you mentioned, the Borg. Even though there are many post-modern references (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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