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		Re: Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
(...) FYI, while I didn't see the show, I saw a page on the Drudge Report on it (my only exposure to it). It wasn't a pastie. Pasties cover. It was a nipple-sunburst jewelry piece. Matt's page was incorrect - the nipple was NOT covered, it was (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) You may think he's a liar, but I don't, so on that issue we may have to agree to disagree. Now as far as incompetency goes, I say this. Bush could only make a decision based on the "facts" given to him. But given SH's history, and the (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: This is where I actually want a gun
(...) What I was trying to do was emphathize with the parents of this little girl. I was imagining that it happened to my little girl. So yeah, my reaction was a little personal and over the top. I don't think Dave or I would be justified to torture (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
Ack...I'm being seized by old, bad habits. (...) There shouldn't need to be a law permitting it...such permission is granted by nature. Only the restriction of such default freedom requires laws. (...) Really? (...) Ayup! (...) It's funny that I (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) Because it is ultimately their prerrogative. You are aware of that basic notion of sovereignty, aren't you? (...) That is their problem. As a non iraqi, you have no vote on the matter - do you? (...) That is your problem, granted. But it's up (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) Smell the coffee John; time is telling as we speak! (...) I was wrong in a way; it looks like he did not have WMD. I feel he would have used them if he had them. (...) Show me the link with OBL. (...) He could not even police his own country! (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		This is where I actually want a gun
Which is probably why I shouldn't be allowed to get one... Seriously, I'd buy the bullet and pull the trigger. She was 11 years old. This guy, if shown that he did it (as all evidence points towards like surveillence tape and DNA all over his car (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
(...) Well then that's a differnet kettle of fish, isn't it? Sex, in mono-or partner form, is different than, well, what we're talking about here. There are laws about being 'sexual' in public, which falls outside the purview of the laws we're (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
(...) Ahh, the loverly internet... (not that Page 3 is a bookmark in my browser... ;) ) That said, newspapers in Canada are not legally allowed to show topless models, even in adverts, if these newspapers are sold to the general populace. So there (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) Well, okay. Bush believed SH possessed them and was fully willing and able to share them with his aquaintances at any time. Interesting question: Did SH know that he didn't have WMDs? Was he deceived by his own scientists? (...) Not so sure. A (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) Well, the ongoing Kashmir conflict (and at some points in history all out war) between India and Pakistan... -Orion (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) I don't have time to research it, but you are dead wrong on both counts. He called for Saddam to step down, and never used the term imminent threat. (...) Please, at this point nobody knows the "truth". For all we know, the WMDs could have (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: This is where I actually want a gun
(...) You're right, it's not. A 3 time drug "abuser" hasn't necessarily committed any actual crime at all, so shouldn't be in jail for his/her "crime". I'm glad to see you've decided to come to the side of the angels and oppose the war on drugs, at (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: <snip> (...) cough Page 3 cough (1) Dave K -not that it's a poster, but I bet it sells newspapers, so any 8 year old in a coffee shop paging thru a legally purchased at any age paper can catch a (...) (21 years ago, 4-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) As I said, splitting hairs. The indication was that Saddam had WoMD and was going to either use them himself or hand them out like candy to Islamic extremists (who would only to be happy to use them on Saddam, given half a chance). (...) He (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) (talking about Iraq here) It's not that they can't, it's why would they? It costs billions of dollars for such a venture, where the oppotunity cost may never be made up. Unless there is something else about the nuclear plant that one is (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) I disagree in this sense: I believe what Bush meant was that, given time, the inevitable proliferation of WMDs to terrorists by SH was bound to occur, just not "imminently". If SH already had the weapons, then an attack could have happened at (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) Believe what you want. Time will certainly tell. (...) Well, some did. How can you be certain that you would have been right? (...) Facts? What "facts"? The facts are that he had them in the past, he had the willingness to use them, and he was (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: To change the tune...
(...) That's splitting hairs: "Grave and gathering" "Urgent". Bush is doing the Texas Two-Step. But on the other count, yes, Bush indicated that Saddam was to be removed from power - specifically because of the WoMD. Can't find any WoMD so now it's (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Once again, even with all our problems, Canada--a great place to live...
(URL) within 'common sense' reasons, is legal, according to the Supreme Court of Canada. You can't use a shoe aor a belt, you can't hit the kid in the head, can't spank if they're under the age of 2... THey actually laid out pretty specific (...) (21 years ago, 3-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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