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(...) Transformations *are* cool, big freakin' robots *are* cool, but Hasbro's Transformers *do* suck. So did the cartoon. Anybody know how Spike could sit inside Bumblebee? Or how Soundwave could shoot with Megatron? And just where did Optimus (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because he turned into a VW Beetle that's how Duhh! (...) Dunno. (...) I assume he left it behind like the toy does. I never actually got to see the cartoon. Steve (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Transformers the cartoon was pretty cool, considering it actually had a plot, which most cartoons in this day and age seem to lack (except for like Batman and Gargoyles). All in all though when it comes to mechs nothing beats Voltron! : ) (...) (24 years ago, 7-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You not watch cartoon, that why you not understand... 1) Spike was human, average size. Bumblebee, the robot, was average human size. When he transforms, suddenly he's bigger than a human. Whatever happened to physics?! Conservation of (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Original Voltron (Lions was cool, till they computer animated it), but the vehicle one was odd. I had the Lion toy (another import) and my friend had the vehicle one and it was hard for us to play with as it had three modes: 1) all fifteen (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not when you look at them from a play value/cost standpoint. You could get an Autobot car for about $8.00 back in the day. conversely, Jetfire (VF-1 fighter) cost about $40. The Alpha I had was around $25-30 and the SDF-1 was a similar price. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think that the lower quality of later Transformers causes the earlier ones to suck. I'll agree that the stuff released toward the end of the 1st Generation sucked, however. ~1st Lieutenant, Fleebnork Division Muffin Head (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<Sneep> (...) Dare yo question my carfelnees?!? I ar the mest crewful person I new!! Oops, I bimped my heed agast thee waal agen?!?! Ooch! Aaron West, Captain LSF Ertbergle (24 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They recently did an 'I love 198x' thing on telly, showing transformers amongst the brat-pack movie clips. They slated Soundwave, asking how this giant robot turned into a little tape player - completely missing the point that the toy was just (...) (24 years ago, 10-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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