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    Why is religion so hot? —Jude Beaudin
   Since this is the place the debates about religion happen (or at least should happen :-) I am gonna post this here... Why do you think is religion such a hot topic (no pun intended) of debate on a website dedicated to LEGO? I find it hard to believe (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is religion so hot? —James Simpson
     (...) I've kind of cooled on the religion debates myself, to the extent that i really don't participate any longer. I think they are somewhat appropriate though, because religious or non-religious sentiment are very real angles of who we all are, (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is religion so hot? —Dave Schuler
     (...) This is a valid question. For those of us confident of our views (which is probably everyone here!), it serves as a place to practice articulating those views so that we may ultimately discuss them more rationally. In addition, we learn the (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is religion so hot? —Jeremy H. Sproat
     (...) Because doing so has affected my beliefs. First, understand that you can't just say "this is religion, and this is everything else I believe in". It's all part of one's belief system, ethics system, political system, etc. Religious beliefs (or (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Why is religion so hot? —Frank Filz
     (...) Good point about separating religious beliefs and the rest of one's being. While I don't think I have changed my religious views based on the direct religious debates, I have been convinced to change my views from a whole perspective. I am (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Why is religion so hot? —David Eaton
     (...) At an offhand guess (because I don't usually partake in other online interfaces that are this open-ended [since we're lucky enough to have the off-topic newsgroup]), I think it's no more prevalant here than it would be elsewhere. Personally, I (...) (23 years ago, 2-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Jason J. Railton
   (...) You're right. It sucks. It's the easiest subject to fall into debating because there's always a good supply of whackos with way-out ideas to fire things up. Plus no-one's actually going to listen and change their views, and no-one's got any (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
   (...) Well-put. I couldn't have trolled any better myself! Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Jason J. Railton
     (...) "trolled", "strawman" - what language are you half-cut bunch of muppets using here anyway? So if you really want to make a good point in a debate, that no one can argue with, you just make up your own language to do it in - is that it? j450n (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Dave Schuler
      (...) "Troll" is of course common Internet parlance for a person who posts in a manner apparently specifically intended to produce heated and emotional responses. "Straw Man" is a long-standing term for the rhetorical falacy of picking your (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Jason J. Railton
       (...) Right. Thanks. Is that 'common' as in 'used by the common folk?' by the way? No, must stop it. :) (...) I learned something today. Marvellous. Anyway, I just wanted to change the subject as I'm sick of this whole religion/flat earth/new (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
      
           Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
       (...) And they say that understated humour is lost on the Internet...;) (...) I'm not sure what's patriotic or not patriotic about any of that. Partisan, perhaps, and occasionally pedestrian. ;) best Lindsay (Besides, you can just look at the old (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
      (...) The reference is to maritime trolling -- the act of fishing by dropping your baited lines in the water and ignoring them for a few hours while you steer the boat. The idea is to let the fish do most of the work -- biting the hook and tiring (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: You shoulda seen the Spy plane that got away (and other fish stories) —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) Lying on the shore with your hook in the water is the laziest. I've had the most success catching fish by trolling. Fly-fishing is the best fishing, except when the fish bother you by getting caught on your hook. The (2nd) bravest fishing I've (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: You shoulda seen the Spy plane that got away (and other fish stories) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      (...) Boy, shows how much *you* know about effortless fishing. The laziest method, of course, involves TNT. The shockwave does the work.[1] (...) A well-placed depth charge could have solved that whole problem. (Okay, you might not have ended up (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: You shoulda seen the Spy plane that got away (and other fish stories) —Bruce Schlickbernd
      (...) What does successfully catching fish have to do with fishing? No, no, too much effort to lob that TNT. Wakes you up, too. Bruce (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
    
         Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Trolling is what you attempted immediately above: trolling for reactions on the internet rather than trolling for fish in a lake. A "strawman" is not a made-up term: from Encarta Dictionary, "unimportant issue or person: an issue or person of (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Jason J. Railton
   (...) Right, now I know what you're on about (thanks Dave) I can comment. That isn't meant to incite an argument, the other bit is. That's meant to point out the futility of the previous debate so no one gives a monkey's when I try to change the (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Spy plane (was: Why is religion so hot?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
   (...) Oh, no hard feelings, I grok you, I thought it was a pretty good try. :-, Most people, when they want a new discussion, tend to start a whole new thread, as it more or less completely separates the new discussion from the old. But the new (...) (23 years ago, 3-Apr-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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