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(...) Full lottery, none of this "scratcher" nonsense. Now that would be putting money where your mouth is! :-) -->Bruce<-- (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I always knew you could noodle a drawing to death, but death by potassium overdose? And here I just got back from the store with bananas... -->Bruce<-- (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I just envisioned a new cash source for the government! Selling a raffle to see who gets to execute someone! Or better yet, an auction! -Lenny (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That may present a problem, but not because of a lack of volunteers. Didn't several hundred members of our civilized and Christian nation sign up to help execute Gary Gilmore? Dave! (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Do I have to kill him with a sword? Cuz I always wanted to try whipping a person to death with a wet noodle. Or or or, maybe forcing him to eat bananas until he croaks. Now that would be an execution!! -Lenny (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You've summed it up very nicely, except that you state it as an absolute rather than a condition for me to even consider the question. (...) Here's a sword - are you willing to personally execute him yourself? No, it's not a facetious (...) (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I see that you are rebutting my "equivocation" with a straw man. Nowhere do I claim that the murderer is blameless, but I don't equate his "blamefulness" (sorry about that malapropism) with some "right" to execute him. And the person (or (...) (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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--SNIP-- (...) Preserving the sanctity of life by State-sanctioned killing. Interesting argument there. Tim (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I reject your equivocation. In one case, the victim is an innocent, and in the other the "victim" is a coldblooded murderer. Being rendered "harmless" does in no way make a person "blameless". (...) No system is perfect. To criticize otherwise (...) (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Since I dragged Bruce back into this, I'll field the question for him (though he's welcome to refute or add to it, of course!) (...) Of course not! The execution of a person who has been rendered harmless is indistinguishable from coldblooded (...) (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So let me get this straight-- is it conditional for me to prove that everyone ever executed actually committed their crimes and then you’ll agree to the death penalty? What about the fate of a man who kills 5 women and children during a (...) (19 years ago, 4-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Dang, my name is still being dragged into this nine months later - I've heard of a pregnant pause..... -->Bruce<-- (19 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And so was (URL) this guy,> so the point is served once more. Dave! (19 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In fact, this has only "always" been the case since Dubya created the term "enemy combatant" out of the firmament. It didn't exist prior to his declaration of permanent war on terror, at least not as a supra-legal designator for "people whom (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Enemy combatants are treated differently than US citizens. This has always been the case. (...) Well, if you had Christian leaders invecting from the pulpit to incarcerate Muslims, I might be inclined to agree (which is the analogy to Mullahs (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But that's the whole problem. The only evidence we have that these detainees are terrorists is, basically, Dubya's assertion that they're terrorists. They're denied all due process and access to lawyers, and in many cases they've been held for (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was speaking specifically about the people who are incarcerated. The purpose of their detention is what they've done, not what they believe (although it is the motivation behind what they did). So my point was that we do not simply detain (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So why do you (URL) call them "islamo-fascists">, and not "alleged terrorists"???? ROSCO (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) First of all, you gotta think globally for a minute. Believe it or not, there's a whole world out there beyond our borders, and our actions have consequences that can be felt throughout. But now that you mention OUR economy, to what indicators (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Economic destruction? All I've seen is 2 of the most horrific economic disasters strike during Bush's tenure (9-11 and Katrina, neither of which can be attributed to the Bush Administration), and yet our economy still grows. To what economic (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jan-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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