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| | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Laswell
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| | | | (...) Of course not. We'd annex you while noone was looking. And noone would pay any attention to your protests because everyone in the US is already too busy complaining about their own problems to pay attention to anyone else's complaints, and (...) (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there John Neal
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| | | | | (...) Canada is going to have to take a number. I'd rather have (the rest of) Mexico first:-) JOHN (20 years ago, 13-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Laswell
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| | | | | | (...) That'd never happen. Conservative corporate interests wouldn't want to see it happen because it'd mean that all of those companies that have moved production plants down there would have to start paying US minimum wage (or worse, Union wage), (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Koudys
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| | | | | | (...) Stepping off my 'trash Dubya' soap box... K, Canada is assimilated by the US-- Can I run for Prez? Is being 'born in the US' retroactive for Canadians if Canada becomes 51-64 states? Dave K (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Laswell
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| | | | | | | (...) That's a good question. The closest precedent I could think of is that if you weren't a natural born citizen, you could still be eligible by being a citizen of the US before the constitution was adopted, but I remember reading that that was (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) The US doesn't recognize dual citizenship. It's a bit of a scam because they do sort of look the other way, but it is possible for the US to retroactively negate your citizenship if they find that you have also claimed Canadian (or any) (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Yowza! Is that correct? I know someone who has dual US and Irish citizenship, and she'd be surprised to learn this tidbit. Not that I'm refuting it; I just never heard it before. Dave! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I'm not willing to do the research, though I'll shoot off an email to my friend, to support my understanding, but as I understand it, the official stance is something like "Well, if you're a citizen of that other nation, you must not be a (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Don't go to any trouble--I didn't mean to give you an assignment. Honestly, I should just suggest to my friend that she check it out herself. After all, it's her dilemma. Thanks all the same. Dave! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) OK, I was totally wrong. The US pretends that dual citizenship doesn't exist. It's neither expressly forbidden nor permitted. Some nations, like Germany expressly forbid it. Dual citizens primarily risk losing their citizenship by (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) It is forbidden, but not very strongly. It's basically under optional enforcement, so the US can revoke your citizenship whenever it's convenient as long as it can be proven that you've done something that warrants such action. Technically the (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | (...) Some of my friends introduced me to a family that they met after moving to NYC, where the mother is Canadian, the father is from New Zealand, and the kids were both born in the US, thus affording both kids triple-citizenship...until they turn (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) Have you forgotten what it was like down there;-) (...) Yes, but in your case, we'd make an exception;-D JOHN (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I disagree. David K is eminently qualified to be Prez, after all, he's a faithful West Wing watcher. That right there makes him more qualified than our current incumbent (who I suspect may not be able to turn televisions on without (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) He is??? ;-) Hmmm, is "TV watcher" considered a qualification for the presidency by Libertarians? I see that employment isn't;-) (...) You know, that's not as easy as it sounds these days. I don't watch much TV, but when I am at a friend's (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, but then, the elections are rigged against minor parties anyway, so really, what does it matter what we think? What matters is what the media and the major parties think, right? If you're going to bet on a rigged race, it helps to know who (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think I say this once every few years, but it's worth repeating every so often--when it comes right down to it, no matter what gets said here in a rant or a tiff or a tirade, people here (in o.t-d, and also elsewhere on LUGNET) are great! (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | (...) No we're not! Chris (getting things back to debate :-) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes we are! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Yes we are dammit!! Agree with me or I'll hit you over the head with this spoon! Dave K -I say to all you villians--KNOCK OFF ALL THAT EVIL!!!!! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Um, we're going to have to CHARGE you for those Kumbaya lessons, you realise. (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Koudys
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| | | | | | (...) K, so Dave K's Prez.. SecState would be... I'd say Larry (or John, I'm still debating that) SecDef would be Bruce (cause I like his style about dealing with foreign peeps) Who else... Who knows anything about agriculture? Dave K (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Who cares? What does agriculture have to do with government? (other than that one is a fertilizer consumer and the other a fertilizer producer) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Pedro Silva
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| | | | | | (...) Oo! Oo! Me! Me! Pick me!!! I can actually save you some money, being appointed Health & Energy Secretary simultaneously. My Programme for the next 4 years will deal with the growing obesity problem amongst youths, and at the same time tackle (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Pedro Silva wrote: (snip) something very similar made the page just before the back cover in this month's Wired.... (the "products from the future" page)... a health club where you get credits in cash back for ergs put into (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) Cool! An Ergonomic Stimulus package. Dave! (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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| | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | (...) Holy Cow! I'm in New Jersey...when did we get sold to Canada? And why would they want us? Chris (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Question for the Conservatives out there David Laswell
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| | | | (...) Clearly it was for the...um... . . . Maybe we blackmailed them? ;P (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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