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Subject:	Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
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Date:	Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:07:49 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote:

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote:

Does anyone else want to see this film as much as I do? I have seen a trailer for this film which is supposed to depict the last hours of Jesus as he faced his crucifixion. The plan has been for the film to be entirely in Aramaic and Latin and without English subtitles! Gibson is supposedly relying entirely on cinematographic styling to get the story across to people unversed in either Aramaic or Latin. I dunno -- it just seems like such a ballsy approach to the material. How can I resist?

Here’s a link to what appears to be a lengthy discussion of the film on a rabidly Xtian website: http://www.crosswalk.com/fun/movies/1195712.html?view=print

Here’s a less favorable cite, with a Jewish perspective: http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/030829/gibson.shtml

Here’s the trailer itself: http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2004/NOPQR/Passion_The/trailer-page.html

Art should make people think and reevaluate their opinions on things. I can’t claim the status of art for a movie I haven’t yet seen, of course, but I am interested in seeing it. I think what intrigues me the most about it is the seeming anti-commercial approach Gibson has adopted. Maybe, I’m wrong and some kind of crass commercialism will yet reveal itself. But Aramaic and Latin and no English, not even subtitles -- c’mon?!

Comments?

-- Hop-Frog

I say it’s about time that filmmakers start taking chances and ‘make art’, instead of all this crass commercial crap.

I mean, Matrix comes out and then a slew of copycats... and appealing to, well me, but that’s a topic elsewhere--but bottom line it is all eye candy and fluff with little substance.

So I will probably go see Gibsons film. I may not understand it, but I am intrigued.

I have to agree, I downloaded the preview overnight and I am definately intrigued. The last movie I saw that I would classify as art rather than eye candy would have to be “The Red Violin.” That was a good movie.

-Mike Petrucelli

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		Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
Looks like Mel caved after all... The last bit I saw on this yesterday on CNN claimed the film would release on Ash Wednesday next year with subtitles. ::sigh:: Maybe the DVD will release the originally intended, non-subtitled version. Then again, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

		Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mike Petrucelli wrote: <snip> (...) What flick would someone consider a 'truly art' from America? Like "Citizen Kane" or the like? Or is that just too obvious? Dave K (21 years ago, 24-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Ecce Homo -- Mel Gibson's Passion (more fluff, sorta...)
(...) I say it's about time that filmmakers start taking chances and 'make art', instead of all this crass commercial crap. I mean, Matrix comes out and then a slew of copycats... and appealing to, well me, but that's a topic elsewhere--but bottom (...) (21 years ago, 23-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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