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(...) Ok, this was my first problem with your post. Let's keep this kind of talk in off-topic where it belongs. :) Now on to my main points. (...) He presented an artistic interpretation that skipped around the text that it was based on. I think we (...) (23 years ago, 12-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Herein perhaps lies part of the problem IMO. BPS has taken a subject that is for many a serious one, and while folks with a good sense of humor can brush it off, some might find it offensive. For instance, I personally find those holocaust (...) (23 years ago, 12-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, you can probably always find someone to find something offensive. (...) I haven't looked at these in too much detail, but what I see is someone combining two life passions. Is it wrong for people to look for ways to express things which (...) (23 years ago, 12-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It looked like a simplified children's Bible to me, and not one meant to be taken as complete. Perhaps reading through the "Young Person's Bible" I gave to my son prepared me to accept this kind of thing. I read through the Last Supper, with (...) (23 years ago, 12-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Obviously the only valid Bible is in the original KJV. :) Okay, I know, only Christians got that joke. Anyway, on to the main topic of the debate here. Three things. 1. The tone is definitely mocking, self-admittedly so.* 2. I'm a pretty (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) BPS is taking on one of the great "sacred cows" of American society, the Bible. While his earlier chapters were much subtler, with his latest group of stories he has eased into full blown mockery mode. Of course the most recent chapters are (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Depends. I get the joke, but I'm not sure it's the joke you were intending. :) (I presume you're making fun of the highly suspect circumstances of the KJV's translation?) (...) And the strength of Christianity and Christians should be in the (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As my dad likes to say "and Jesus wrote with a red pen." Ben Roller (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I never questioned whether it was right or wrong, but rather its appropriateness (if that's a word). As Ian Malcolm once stated: "Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should..." Is the _ONLY_ way to express (...) That's an (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're right on this point. My apologies. (...) Yes, it is this sort of interpretation... Bob says, "I would like to explain why I don't think you should kill Johny Walker." Newspaper Story: Bob says, "I would like to... kill Johny Walker." (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There are those Christians who think that the KJV is the only valid translation, and that all more recent translations (NIV, NASB, RSV, etc) are suspect. Some of them elevate the KJV so much that it seems they even find the original Hebrew, (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) An interpretation they share with many detractors of the Bible. (...) I've not read it, so I don't know anything about it's stance (pro-Bible or anti-Bible), but you might want to check out a book called _The Harlot by the Side of the Road: (...) (23 years ago, 13-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, if it was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me;-) -John (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dude, you really need to go back and check out the references. I mean, he skips and chooses. Even on the quick "Jesus and the Poor" he leaves out Jesus' explanation of why the woman poured oil on Him. In other words, he eliminated "the basic (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ah. Okay. Well, I found it funny for a related reason--mostly that James had the translation slanted in a way to extol monarchy and, some suggest, Catholicism (James having been a closet Catholic as he was). That's ironic for a lot of the (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That was going to be my point as well. I would argue that every translation including the first one (ie, from the "mind of God" to the "hand of man") automatically (though not necessarily intentionally) reflects some of the biases of the (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, there are two major types of contradiction to consider: those between two or more passages of the bible (such as the number of kinds of animals on the ark--2 or 7 of each?); and those between the bible and reality (such as the fact that (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which chapter of the Bible talks about the dinosaurs? (...) Some people find that little omission to be contradictory to reality. :) Just curious, A.B. (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The very first two chapters talk about the dinosaurs, it just doesn't mention them by name....matter of fact it mentions very few animals by name, but that doesn't mean they weren't part of creation. jt (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Global", in the Ancient World, was a far more restrictive concept; I'm sure you'll agree that any experience lived by an entire region would probably have been considered "global" for many years, until news from distant lands became (...) (23 years ago, 14-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am the first to admit that I have selectively chosen which stories from the Bible, and in certain cases which parts of which stories to illustrate on The Brick Testament. But I do not agree that my editing of passages from the Bible is (...) (23 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's funny, that's what they did in the movie -- emphasized/distorted events from the book that amplified Harry's questionable moral character. The zoo scene is actually one example of this -- in the book, Harry just 'disappears' the glass (...) (23 years ago, 15-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You've missed the serious disharmonies because you didn't WANT to see them. I can't really blame you, because I remember how nice it felt to believe that there was a loving God who was watching out for me and would take me up to heaven when I (...) (23 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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snip (...) It's true that the Bible doesn't sugar-coat it's heroes. David, the man after God's own heart, is an adulterer and a murderer. God anoints Samson with incredible strength, even though he frequents prostitutes. God does destroy the entire (...) (23 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) None of the chapters discuss the dodo bird, elephant, polar bear, passenger pigeon, asparagus, etc. That's hardly a realistic measure of contradictions to reality. :O) (...) Job 40:15-24 However, since you asked so nicely. I came across this (...) (23 years ago, 16-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your statement is true, to an extent, but you are in essence claiming that because the bible didn't describe one particular thing that existed, the absence of a description of any other particular thing can be excused. Sort of, but in doing so (...) (23 years ago, 19-Feb-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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