| | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) James Simpson
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| | (...) I'm not sure what you are getting at. Can you please elaborate? Who is this "nobody" that you are referring to? What connection are you assuming between Bible-purchases and AIDS deaths? If I purchase a Bible (which I have in the last year), am (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Dave Schuler
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| | | | (...) I read from Richard's post a concern that a disease that has claimed millions of lives is still perceived as a "fringe" disease, while a disease that recently has claimed fewer than 10 lives has been the front page story in every news source (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) James Simpson
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| | | | (...) I understand that the root of his issue was not bible purchases per se, but his GodMoney comments were red herrings meant to attack willy-nilly and make broad- brush generalizations about people of faith and their motives and concerns. (...) I (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Scott Arthur
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| | | | | (...) As currently deployed, it is indeed small potatoes. I'm sure more people are killed by food poisoning than anthrax. As a terrorist weapon it is very effective. I expect the economic cost of its impact must be huge. If the government treats it (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) All right, I retract that statement (which was admittedly unfair). I'm still not comfortable with "risky behavior," though, because it carries a vibe of "got what was coming to them," whether you intend it or not. (...) Agreed--just as David (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) How's that? I'd call Koresh a Christian, just not a mainstream one. What does it take to be a 'true' Christian? Chris (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) James Simpson
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| | | | | | | (...) I'd argue that the best and only way to determine if one is living consistently with the precepts of an adopted or assumed philosophical position/worldview is to compare the precepts to the behavior and try to determine whether or not that (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) What does it take to be a 'true' vegetarian? I would say that a 'true' vegetarian is one who accepts and lives by the behaviors demanded by vegetarianism, ie not eating meat. A 'true' Christian, I would suggest, is one who accepts and lives by (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | (...) Er, didn't Koresh think he *was* Christ? I'd call that more than just "not mainstream." best LFB (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Do you have a cite for that? What I have heard from some sources is that he thought he might be in the middle of a prophecy that was playing out, but not that he thought he was "Jesus" any more than he thought every single person who accepted (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) does (...) First, I wonder even if true, if it really does. Don't Christians belive that Christ will return to bring in the new world? Doesn't that have to be someone? Mightn't it be a person born and raised normally (let's say, as a (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | What does it take to be a true Christian? David Eaton
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| | | | | | (...) I'm very interested in some answers to this, actually-- particularly from a Christian perspective. I think I've tried to define Christianity a couple times as certain sets of philosophical/moral beliefs combined with supernatural beliefs, (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What does it take to be a true Christian? James Simpson
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| | | | | | (...) To be a true Christian, I'd say that one must be first squarely in agreement with the essentials of the faith--the clearest and most basic beliefs that the early believers held regarding the person of Christ, and have which been a bedrock of (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What does it take to be a true Christian? Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I wonder if C.S. Lewis examined the Mayan belief system? The Mesoamerican system of gods is pretty alien. They are neither good, nor bad, taken as a whole, just more powerful. Further, I have to wonder if the ethos of "be willing to sacrifice (...) (23 years ago, 27-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: What does it take to be a true Christian? James Simpson
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| | | | | | (...) Being simply more powerful doesn't imply, to my mind, a difference of "kind" in moralities, only a difference of "degrees." Though the Mayan Gods weren't moral authorities of any particular kind, I'd wager that moral codes still existed within (...) (23 years ago, 28-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: GODMONEY (was re: Anthrax worse than AIDS?) Richard Marchetti
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| | | | I think Dave! did a pretty good job of expanding on what I was intimating in my little Godmoney venting. I do think our priorities are completing screwed. I think we should BY FAR be more concerned with security, emergency response, and how to (...) (23 years ago, 26-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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