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Subject:	Natural born killers? (was Re: Free speech and abuse thereof
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:19:34 GMT
Reply-To:	lpieniazek@novera/stopspammers/.com
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John Neal wrote: 1) The system will only work if people are > honest, hard-working, and respectful of others' rights, and b) the vast > majority of people are *not* that. While I concede that a lof of people believe this to be true, it isn't. The vast majority of people ARE hard working decent honest caring beings. One of the most pernicious things about the christian belief system is the notion of original sin. Other belief systems have it too, and it colors and distorts believers thinking. Come on, a baby is born evil? > And if we think otherwise we merely deceive ourselves. Solipsism at its finest. If I disprove John, he's so brainwashed by his false belief system that he will remain convinced that I'm deceiving myself. -- Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com http://my.voyager.net/lar - - - Web Application Integration! http://www.novera.com fund Lugnet(tm): http://www.ebates.com/ Member ref: lar, 1/2 $$ to lugnet. NOTE: I have left CTP, effective 18 June 99, and my CTP email will not work after then. Please switch to my Novera ID.

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		Re: Natural born killers? (was Re: Free speech and abuse thereof
(...) I think you're wrong. I would say the "vast minority". If there exists such a majority, why haven't changes been made for the better sooner? (...) I never said that, and I don't happen to believe it, either. I think that notion came from (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: Natural born killers? (was Re: Free speech and abuse thereof
(...) One thing I'm going to insert here, and has almost nothing to do with the current discussion, is that the "Original Sin" belief does not exist in Mormonism as it does in most other creationist religions. We are taught that Adam transgressed, (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Free speech and abuse thereof
Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Well, if I may jump in here and say that, in theory Lar and the LP may make things logically clearer, but even in the best of systems you still have the same, nagging problem: 1) The system will only work if (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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