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Re: We don't live in America, America lives in US!
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Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:01:13 GMT
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USA - please DO NOT revange ! No war ! In this case Europe will be NOT with you.
Thanks.


> 
> Then I emailed the link to a good friend of mine, Mimi, and she wasn't so
> happy about it. When I read her response I understood why. She is one smart
> girl (and I'm being objective here).
> 
> She asked me to post it for her. Here goes. I edited nothing.
> 
> ----
> 
> hey shiri.
> 
> I know you meant the best, but that letter didn't comfort me. At all.
> Let me tell you why. I don't feel like the first reaction should be
> REVENGE. I don't believe our first instinct should be let's hurt them,
> let's get them back. I think that it will have to be done eventually,
> but that is a very dangerous first reaction to take. I'm not scared for
> the spirit of America. I KNOE the spirit of america can survive. People
> want democracy, it's a great thing, there are many good people who
> recognize the benefits of Freedoms, they will survive.
>  The most important thing to me is human lives. Saving a Soul. The
> letter threatened the terrorist with an atomic bomb. We should NOT,
> under ANY CONCEIVABLE conditions, be PROUD about dropping the atomic
> bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Although many people liken this to Pearl
> Harbor, I do NOT want another world war, especially if it is going to be
> a nuclear war. Do you know how many people's lives are destroyed by
> atomic bombs, and how long the repurcutions are felt for? we're talking
> about radiation, not just boom, big explosion, buildings collapsing.
> We're talking about people turning into dust, burns, deaths, destruction
> that you can't imagine with the energy that we're familiar with in
> everyday life. We should not even remind the world that we once dropped
> two atomic bombs, and we DEFINITELY should not remind ourselves.
>  There is even a section in his letter where he speaks of haste, about
> acting without knowledge. That's also a danger to be avoided. I went to
> shul last night, and after the service and studying we had a discussion,
> and one woman who scared me more than anything was asking for immediate
> action, for bombing afganistan even if we're not sure, for not caring
> whether or not we hurt civilians because they obviously don't, for
> hitting them where it hurts...
>  NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no no no no no no no no no
>  the point is to END the destruction, not to gratuitiously increase it!
> I'm not a pure idealist anymore, i think mike helped me with that. I
> told Joe today that I couldn't respond to him with the pure optimism
> that i used to. I know there will be more bloodshed, that the US will
> shed blood and that probably more US blood will be shed. But the point
> is to resolve the conflict with AS LITTLE BLOODSHED AS POSSIBLE. And as
> much purpose as possible in every person killed, even though i believe
> that no death is worth any "cause." Saving a soul. Nothing comes above
> saving a soul except saving your own life. But the question is, what is
> the path that will lead to as many souls still intact as possible?
>  I'm scared. I'm scared to death of rash decisions and harsh
> punishments. And last night I was told to be scared of losing Israel if
> the US didn't react harshly. And I realized that we need to keep Israel.
> And we need to keep lives. How can we do both?
>  Some questions are not meant to be answered. Gd alone knows the answer.
> But these are questions we NEED to find the answers to, so that we can
> respond, and understand, and be educated in our response. Let us come
> together, let us react, let us save lives and ensure that those lives
> may be lived out in health and freedom.
> 
> will you post that letter as a response to the one you sent me? please?
> you can say a friend wrote it. tell me any responses you get. thank you.
> i went on the site, read all the other responses, tried to post my own
> but there's complicated stuff to go through so it would be easier if you
> did it.
> 
> ----
> 
> Responses can be directed here (I'll show her them), or to
> marbeit@mediaone.net (Please don't send her threats or spam, ok?! she's a
> good friend. :-)
> 
> Follow-ups are set to o-t.debate because this is not general info anymore.
> 
> thanks.
> -Shiri



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  Re: We don't live in America, America lives in US!
 
<snip> I had a smile on my face when I finished reading this. Then I emailed the link to a good friend of mine, Mimi, and she wasn't so happy about it. When I read her response I understood why. She is one smart girl (and I'm being objective here). (...) (25 years ago, 14-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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