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Re: Views on asylum seekers?
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Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:08:08 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes:
> > Seems like the stance of the Australian government
> > http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/Full_Coverage/Immigrants/ has become an
> > international news item. Political issues aside (if possible), I'd be
> > interested in other peoples views on this (especially non-Australians).
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> FWIW, I heard on the radio this morning that Australia has agreed to take some
> of them.
I hadn't heard that - and I'm skeptical that would happen, given the position
of the government. Here's another story about the court action which has been
brought by civil libertarian groups
http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010903/aapnews/999470958-2550824970.html
> > Australia has many refugee camps where such people are housed while their
> > applications are processed. Most are away from large population areas, and
> > some are rumoured to be overcrowded. There are also rumours of abuse by
> > officials, and many have been in such camps for several years.
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> Are they being used for slave labor?
Not AFAIK. There's no rumours of that.
> > So what do you think? Should Australia take these people, or has the
> > government acted properly? Or is there another solution no-one's thought of?
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> I personally think that citizenship is a scam. I'd welcome those folks to the
> US.
Where would you house them? A detention centre? Housing commission? What do you
tell American citizens who now have to pay for large numbers of detention
centres? Or citizens who've been waiting years for a housing commision house?
What if they aren't genuine refugees, just well cashed-up hangers-on? What do
you tell the genuine refugees who've had their places taken by others just
because they had more cash?
> I guess I suppose that Australians "ought" to do the same, but I feel
> pretty removed from the situation. What about your opinion?
I'm happy to accept genuine refugees, and if they make their application before
entering the country, even though they may have to wait a while, it allows the
government to plan the extra accomodation needed. People who jump the queue in
my book deserve no sympathy, refugee or not.
Of course, the problem is exacerbated by the smugglers who take the cash,
however while there's a ready supply of people willing to pay, there's no way
to crack down on that. Our government is, in a way, trying to send the message
"It's no longer worth the money, because we wont take you anymore". Of course,
for many of these people, it'll take a lot more than that to deter them.
Also, AFAIK once their applications are processed, any genuine refugees that
still want to emigrate to Australia will be accepted.
ROSCO
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| (...) I wouldn't. At least not particularly. I suppose it would be reasonable to donate to some organization that helped them find work. The housing market could supply a place to live. (...) No. That wouldn't be much of a welcome. (...) Maybe...but (...) (23 years ago, 3-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) FWIW, I heard on the radio this morning that Australia has agreed to take some of them. (...) Are they being used for slave labor? (...) I personally think that citizenship is a scam. I'd welcome those folks to the US. I guess I suppose that (...) (23 years ago, 2-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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