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(...) Each to his own I suppose. (...) What is you could not afford it? (...) Private industry is just as bad as the government... in my opinion. Look at how wrong the private sector got the dot.coms (...) We are back to where we started - you still (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ask for assistance from a charity. There are plenty of grants and scholarships available for primary & secondary education. Just like post-secondary. You just need to look for it. I'm all for educating children, but I don't agree with the way (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not quite true. Think about it a bit, it will come to you - there are at least 2 other ways... (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sterility and vasectomy/hysterectomy? (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you think there is enough charity money out there for everyone to go cap-in-hand for a hand out? (...) Controversial (...) You said this before. I asked you where the money should be spent - I think you replied saying the government should (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I would put vasectomoy/hysterectomy within the sterility umbrella (even though sterility is often not CHOSEN, and V/H can be). There are other ways... (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sterilization and sticking to the same gender (girls typically don't get girls pregnant, nor do boys typically get boys pregnant). (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One would expect not anyway: (URL) A (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. Although not everyone has to. (...) How so? (...) By reducing itself (fat chance). (...) I said "idealistic world". (...) That's what education is for. (...) -Duane (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Very interesting. I will have to read more about it and see how the story developes. I hadn't heard of the technique before, so I can't argue any points about it yet :-) -Duane (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave spotted it too: (URL) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Irony (...) So the money should be spent regulating itself getting smaller? (...) We do not live there. How would you solve the problems in this world? (...) Is this the best you can do? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me back-track for a minute. I think I started down a different path than we were originally on. I think the government should reduce it's size period. It doesn't need to be as large as it is. Too much red tape already. That said, let's (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. (...) I understand there are no/little computers in schools in India - and yet every country wants Indian IT graduates. I am pretty sure that Japan has very few computers in schools also - but I may be wrong. The problems with computers in (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Court order? (URL) Yes contraceptives are effective, just not 100% effective. If you (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) heh. Vasectomy and castration (chemical or otherwise) are generally quite effective, as is tubal ligation or hysterectomy. In addition, homosexual intercourse traditionally has a low occurrence of pregnancy. Dave! (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) 'Dissenting Judge Ann Bradley said the sentence violated the "basic human right" to have children.' Wasn't aware of such a right. Who's got her email address, maybe she could present her reasons for that viewpoint here and settle (1) a (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am, if we share an understanding of what "basic" means. Even if we do not, there is this : Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Article 16. (I expect Duane will contest both. ;/) However, the paranoid in me tells me that this is the (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) For the benifit of other readers: (URL) 16. (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When one read this again it looks rather quaint: "have the right to marry and to found a family". Although I am sure/hope it is not intended today, but it implies that marriage should come before having children. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I had typed out a whole paragraph arguing exactly that point, but thought it was vague enough that I let it be. Besides, I didn't want to prove your statement about me above to be true. :-) (...) -Duane (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well? Is there a contrary view? Scott A (23 years ago, 12-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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