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    Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Kirby Warden
   Is there anyone here who does not believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that men have indeed walked on the moon? I have spent some time in thought on this "conspiracy", and have decided, that I could never convince a skeptic that men have walked on the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Beyond a shadow? I dunno. A shadow of doubt doesn't take much to support it. Beyond a reasonable doubt though, yes. (...) I share a trait with Dave! (see, got his name to be last in the sentence) I too will get into debates with people for no (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Kirby Warden
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Ummm...why what? (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Why ask about conspiracy theories? (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Kirby Warden
     (...) why not? aren't they debatable? (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Well, sure! And that's a perfectly valid reason in and of itself, wasn't challenging that. Just wondering if you had something deeper in mind with the question, is all. (Some convertor used this question as an opener to try to convince me of (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Kirby Warden
     Nope, I don't do the converting thing. If someone doesn't agree with me on a topic, it doesn't disturb me in the least. However, I do enjoy being challenged, wheather I challenge myself, or find myself challenged by another force (people, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Rick Clark
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Kirby Warden writes (in part): (...) I'll come out on this one. I love the film, Capricorn One [1]. I believe the hoax theory is plausible [2], and I even doubted the veracity of the moon landing for a few days a couple (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Kirby Warden
      heh, I enjoyed watching "capricorn one". I hope no one is taking this thread as direct challenge. Though I am a believer in the moon landings, I understand that it is possible (though unlikely) that I could have been led astray. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Anniversary of a hoax? (was Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon) —Steve Chapple
     (...) I had never questioned it before some friends pointed out the problems - now I'm leaning more to the skeptic side. I see the biggest problem being the radiation. Could you point me to your "anomaly refutation" site? At the moment the only (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Anniversary of a hoax? (was Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon) —David Eaton
     (...) Chances are the anomalies you refer to are the ones pointed out in the Fox special awhile back-- I think they covered most of the bases, including the Van Allen radiation belts-- This link covered it pretty well, along with some pointers to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Anniversary of a hoax? (was Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon) —Steve Chapple
     (...) SRC L#765 (URL) (23 years ago, 9-Aug-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men —Daniel Jassim
     Could the moon landings have been faked, of course. However, I believe they happened and seriously doubt there was a conspiracy regarding the matter. We know the rockets went up and we have the first hand accounts of the astronauts who rode them. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men —Kirby Warden
      i'm rather devided on the "want to believe" concept... ...the kid in me certainly thinks it a great idea to have aliens visiting Earth and leaving advanced technology... ...however, the realist in me doesn't think it would be such a hot idea to have (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men —Rick Clark
      In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes (in part): (...) Actually, I think the consprirists only believe the moon landings themselves were faked, not the space program, nor the earth orbits. They seem to believe that we have orbited the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men —Kirby Warden
     In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Daniel Jassim writes: <snip> (...) There is link somewhere in my favorites folder that I cannot find at the moment (this folder is dire need of organizing) which offers a cite about a creationist who would not believe a (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men —Dave Schuler
      (...) I've read that quote--I think it was this guy: (URL) this article doesn't show the quote. (...) There was, of course, that awful movie "Wag the Dog." Dave! (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men —Kirby Warden
      (...) yup, i think that was him. I looked around some more for my link, but I think i might not have actually saved it. In fact, I might have found it somewhere around Lugnet, but am not sure where to start looking, it has been a couple of months (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: little green men —Daniel Jassim
     (...) <snipped some stuff> (...) What was that line of Chris Farley's in "Tommy Boy": You can stick your head up a cows ass to look for a good steak or just trust the butcher... something like that. ;^) I hear ya, Kirby. Dan (23 years ago, 10-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Ross Crawford
     Here's a page that's highly biased against the hoax theory, but has links to lotsa stuff on both sides. ROSCO (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Kirby Warden
      I am highly appreciative for sites such as this. Often they can explain better thatn myself the differece between scientific fact and personal biased speculation... I took the liberty of reading several articles on that site thoroughly absorbed (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Steve Lane
   (...) Haven't you seen that documentary? The one that shows all the errors made when they faked the landing. It was so faked. I'm surprised I'm not more bothered. The video's show the flags flapping with the wind (there's supposadly an outdoor (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —David Eaton
   (...) You're apparently in the minority. When watching the show, I was able to (through my own knowledge) discount all the alleged "mistakes" they made except for: 1. the Van Allen radiation belts 2. the overlaid photography from different sites 3. (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Mark Sandlin
     (...) <snippage> (...) "Documentary" indeed. :^P ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Steve Lane
     (...) Oops, that's my fault for watching channel 5, I should have known better, there renown for pumping out rubbish (rubbish made in America). Well, I've read the site and my faith in the Moon landing's has been restored. Steve (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon —Bruce Schlickbernd
   (...) Quote from the site mentioned above: "Good ... and of course, no one claims they did. Thousands of pictures were taken on the Moon, and the ones you see will tend to be the good ones. If Buzz Aldrin accidentally cut off Neil Armstrong's head, (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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