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(...) I doubt it. I'll try to provide references from less biased (i.e. biased in my favor ;-) tonight or tomorrow. Chris (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think we are disagreeing. I posted this example in order to address the (semantic?) issue of motive for doing things... not to claim that there aren't different niches, different price points and different needs. GM's problem is that (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In general, I agree with Bill's note. But... (...) Some war. Not most, for most participants. Chris (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mostly agree so mostly snipped. (...) Matter of semantics? I'm not a good enough bluffer to use a realistic toy in a standoff, so I bought something that's capable of killing, not just a BB gun or pea shooter. I need to have the real thing behind my (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) free (...) But look at the little Korean companies and compare those to Toyota. Hyundai's sell. They are made at significantly lower quality levels, but still they sell. Why? Because the niche that they market to wants Toyotas but can only (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What do you mean by "better?" I have had minor formal firearms training and have practiced at the range on numerous (though not as much as I should, recently) occasions. (...) Silly macho posturing. There are lots of reasons that one might aim (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Realistically, what do you think the chances are of your government gonig on the "rampage"? Scott A (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) pay (...) possibility (...) I don't usually do this, but... Yeah! What she said. I certainly never meant to imply that the false-father wasn't a vicitim. He's the worst one. Chris (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(snipped, but I don't think unduely so) (...) At the same time, society has already invested a great deal of resources into the adult and almost none into the kid. From the point of view of "society," doesn't it make more sense to value the adult? (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't have time to grubb about too much, but I did find this: There were 98 murders in Scotland in 1999 (Scotland has the worst rate in the UK). The population is ~6M (10% of UK) - so that gives a murder rate of ~1.63/100K. Gun murders (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) OK. So who is in the next room? Your kids? Your dog? Your neighbours? (...) Show me they are wrong. 51% of all gun deaths are suicides – perhaps the gun owners are unstable? Statistically, the person who is most likely to murder your family is (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) USA _only_. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) But I think it is that way because there are no/little guns. I am pretty sure I have seen no more than 5-10 non-military guns in my 32 years here. All those 5-10 were in the hands of the police. Scott A (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I disagree profoundly. There is a huge difference between pointing a gun at someone in order to prevent myself (or someone else) from being killed, and pointing a gun at someone to kill them. My intent is not to kill them, it is to stop them (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And we could take it a step further. How many of those firearm deaths are alchohol related? I have no way of finding that statistic, but there must be a percentage. I sincerely feel bad for the good, ordinary people of Canada, as well as the (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Where would this end? Do you think it's reasonable that wealthy individuals or corporations should have tanks, fighter jets etc in their private possession? Or that they would actually bother to defend the "citizenry" against the government (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The only reason the 2nd might be ineffective against government firepower is that we have allowed the government to overly restrict the weapons an individual may possess. At this point, we better darn well hope that if the government goes on a (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think I disagree. At least I disagree that if one draws, one's ONLY possible intent is to kill. Drawing a gun has an amazing affect on people (I know, I've had a gun drawn on me, now that search is working again, you can even go look it up). (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hm, this is starting to sound a bit like what happened to the power company in New Hampshire. They started to build a nuke plant which Massachusetts kept from opening (one strategy was to refuse to create an evacuation plan). The power company was (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As I've argued many a time. We are not served well by bowing down to the holy brick and no other. Frank (24 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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