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  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) All of the following answers are predicated upon a belief that the Bible is true and these answers solely represent It's content. This is not an attempt to "assimilate" anyone. It is merely answers to question posed. (...) Because it's His (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Critical Thinking
 
(...) It is you, sir, who hasn't been listening. (...) NEVER ASKED YOU TO BELIEVE ONCE. Go back and check. (...) Okay, here is my point (again). If I turned water in wine right in front of your eyes, what I am hearing you say is that you wouldn't (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Critical Thinking
 
(...) I think He (Jesus) made it perfectly clear as recorded in the Gospels. (...) I never said that. It is more right for me (obviously, because otherwise I'd believe the one which I felt most valid). (...) Hmm. Works in advertising.... -John (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: About "Plowed Territory"
 
(...) I don't know, Lar. Whether you drive a horse and cart, a 2000 LeSabre or a Hovercoupe, you are still going to wonder about the nature of your own existence and die. Maybe the little details change, but the important questions are still the (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) I would like to see .debate be able to exist as something worthwhile, but I sense that with each debate which explodes into a ravaging god vs science debate, we lose another of the folks who are interested in serious debate. I'm not sure how (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) we (...) Why? Seriously. Is the creation of an individual human life a reasonable analogy? Do you advocate parents having the same rights over their children that you are accepting of your God having over us? (...) I think that creating life (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) No one here is enslaved! The above whining is based on a misconception about Diety. Many people in history have been enslaved and don't whine about it or blame it for why they can't get ahead. No, I have no patience for whining. It's a Marine (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Understood. The point is not how good someone is, we are expected to be good, no brownie points there. Being good is breaking even. The problem is in the deficits we allow. How do we make up for our mistakes? Apologize and correct it in the (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Oops. My bad. I should have caught that, but as you say, I was away for what has got to be one of the biggest weeks on l.o-t.d and was racing to mow through hundreds of posts. At this point I'm overwhelmed and haven't even looked at the (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Yes. As well as all the statues. Bill (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Is this what you say to everyone whose hackles raise at being enslaved? "Oh, so you're someone else's property. So someone else gets to play with you as a toy and if you're not entertaining, put you to death. Grouse, whine, cry! Just get over (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) I think what is generally meant when your God is called petty and vengeful is a reference to the popular assertion that regardless of how good we act, if we fail to suck up to him, we go to hell. That's probably what Tom means. It's certainly (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) of (...) sentient (...) in (...) Altruism could be an instinct in a sentient being. And instincts aren't universally followed. Why do you folks insist on pretending that we're so different from the rest of the beasts? <...here we go (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) I'm not Larry, but I have disdain for self-delusion in general. Don't you? Obviously we disagree about whether Christianity is delusion, but I'm not getting why you would possibly assert that someone's disdain for a particular bit of (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Do market based societies select for virtue? (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Advantages like having to commit suicide alone in a cramped little concrete bunker surrounded by people who have been praying for you to die? When I state it like that, I'm not sure why more people don't want to cheat big. (...) If you meant (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: About "Plowed Territory"
 
(...) I admit that I'm not well read, as I've said many times, I've not been to college. I honestly hadn't read Pascal nor his wager - until last night at this location, which is quite good: (URL) reading in the past has been limited in many ways, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Yeah? Well what about Catholics who worship the saints? Isn't that idolatry? Chris :-) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) This isn't really minor. It's kind of the crux of the past three thousand years of philosophy. (...) Woa! What does that mean? I'm not sure that such an assertion is obvious at all. Truths are multilayered, and most things are true/real in (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) No offense back, but I believe that you were failed by your education. (...) The idea that one philosophy is more defensible than another does not negate those who adhere to the less defensible philosophy. (...) And a Christian says there is a (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: About "Plowed Territory"
 
(...) If you sincerely thought you came up with Pascal's wager on your own, you're not very well read. Try www.yahoo.com with Pascal's Wager as search string. If you sincerely thought that no one has yet thought about how to refute it, you're not (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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