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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Sun, 3 Dec 2000 19:18:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes:

I simply can't believe in such a petty and vengeful god as the Christian God.

He's not petty or vengeful. Substantiate *your* claim. He put's up with
quite a lot. He's actually quite patient.

I think what is generally meant when your God is called petty and vengeful is
a reference to the popular assertion that regardless of how good we act, if we
fail to suck up to him, we go to hell.  That's probably what Tom means.  It's
certainly what I would mean if I were saying that.

Empahsized in my own terms:

If I have to worship someone to avoid neverending torture, that someone is
evil.  Period.  If that is your God, then your God is the sum of evil.
Grace and Providence are myths.  You worship the most evil force man could
imagine, and you are personally not just a coward for submitting, but evil too
for trying to get others to submit to such evil.

OTOH, if your God is something other than the popular conception of the
Christian patriarch, then maybe none of that applies.

Chris



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(...) Understood. The point is not how good someone is, we are expected to be good, no brownie points there. Being good is breaking even. The problem is in the deficits we allow. How do we make up for our mistakes? Apologize and correct it in the (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) He has done just that. He made a way for everyone to enter, some don't want it. I have to object to your statement "regardless of sin", though. You can't justify that statement. If he is holy, he can't do that. Also, for sake of argument, what (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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