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I have made my point with this. My assertion was that that the LP is not supported by a broad cross-section of the US public. We agree that its support is from the "haves" not the "have nots". Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 3
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(...) You are avoiding my points Larry - YES or No is all that is required. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 1
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(...) The libertarian claim to benefit all society... not just the poperty owning part of it. (...) So you have to be cruel to be kind... I see. So, how long would it take? How many would die? How much would crime rise by an the short term? (...) No (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 2
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(...) What's so hard to understand about one point at a time? Did you want to give up on your other two for now and talk about this one? I am taking them in your numbering order. This bears repeating, though... (...) as does this... (...) ++Lar (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 3
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One point at a time. I'm not willing to invest more of my free time in teaching singing at this point. (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 2
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(...) This is an easy one Larry - One or Two, whats is gonna be? Would a starving man/woman have a right to food? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | LP POINT 3
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4 Quick Questions: 1. Race Under libertarian principles, would one have the right discriminate against others based on race? 2. Slave Under libertarian principles, would one have the right sell oneself into slavery? 3. Regulation Would medical (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure what that phrase means, exactly. It seems pejorative and seems to (along with phrases like "cramped, Victorian") show the speaker's bias and tendency to want to use ridicule instead of critical thinking. But I don't believe I (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is not the point of my point: "Show me it is a representative cross section of the US public." I'm interested in breadth - not depth. Show me that all socio-economic groups support the LP in a broadly representative manner - show me it is (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: LP POINT 2
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(...) One point at a time, sorry. But in the meantime, you can either apply first principles and derive your own answer, or you can read old threads, where something very like this was discussed, at length. Check your assumptions, though. They (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Clearly state the question, please, along with your assumptions. In the absence, though... I've never claimed that the LP has massive support among the voting populace as a political party. If it did, we'd win a lot more elections than we do. (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Lets keep politics out of Lego
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(...) Not admitting defeat doesn't mean a debate hasn't been lost (or won). Sometimes the debate provokes further thought on the subject - and that's the place that people change their minds. Admit it, how many of you are second-guessing eating (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | LP POINT 2
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LP POINT 2 Larry If an individual were to find him/herself in your propertyist dreamland with no food, no water, no education, no money, no property and starving. What rights would he/she have? Which right would be strongest: 1. The right of the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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LP POINT 1 Larry, Can you please show me how wrong I am? Scott A From: (URL) > I liked this, it pretty much sums up my view of the LP: (...) So weak that you will not answer it? Show me this guy is wrong. Show me what the support for LP is. Show me (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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1. 1st I had to state my arguments - you refused to answer them. 2. Then you asked me to raise one point at a time - you refused to answer it. 3. Now I have to raise a single point at a time, and start a new thread for each. You _really_ are (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne
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(...) Not sure I understand the question-- are you asking me why I would still make it a crime to drive a vehicle under the influence of drugs? Because if you are, then you are more obtuse than I thought. -John (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Every catholic - perhaps. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I (mostly) disagree. Of course part of my agreement is that in a way you are right, very few arguments are ever "won". But this group can and has been the catalyst for changes in opinion. I have certainly changed my opinions (and you can go (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Parental strategies? (was: Re: Abortion, consistent with the LP stance? (Re: From Harry Browne)
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(...) Uh, we don't know that... (...) And you do? Please enlighten, but first please cite your source of this understanding. (...) I think he's shown how to get your kid to call you by your first name, that's about all. (...) Uh, we don't know (...) (24 years ago, 27-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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