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(...) Well, there is the occaisional landlord. There are also the bail bondsmen, but they are in a way an agent of the government. (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen wrote in message <3889b27e.4370108@lu...et.com>... (...) One problem with this is that in the US, minimum wage for 40 hrs/week isn't really a minimum sufficient wage (for most parts of the country). I do think that companies have to (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You do then, as well. (...) I asked how many companies do you know that did break into your house, etc. You said they have the power to, to which I disagree. You never answered the first question anyway, which is which companies do so? I know (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) Right, but you've set yourselves up for that. By having all those friendly social programs, you paint a great big target on your chest. My grandfather expatriated to (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (I stopped reading .debate a while ago because I don't have the time to read the same old arguments, much less participate in them but I just had to respond to this since I glanced at it before hitting delete.) How can you be perfect and not (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What I am talking abouit is where I use a desktop-class machine, sold by say Compaq (because I have a contract with them to supply all my machinery), instead of the server class machine or router they wopuld otherwise have sold me. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You know what _really_ bugs me about US lawsuits? Punitive damages. The whole _concept_ is just utterly asinine. Fines, if any are necessary, should be _fines_, and therefore payable to the government, not J Random Victim. Jasper (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, by making them hired for life, or at the very least not hired on the basis of the Great Unwashed Masses. Makes for a much better judicial system if you don't have those pesky jury things, either. Crawl out of the judicial sixteenth (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe it'd be a good thing for the country or the world -- but not necessarily for the individual voter. Anyway, we currently get enough non-economic refugees here in .nl that it severely skews the population count -- and in some cases we're (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Stop putting words into my mouth. (...) You mean it wasn't rhetorical? Besides, I did answer. Any big corporation has the power to do so. Just not legally. Jasper (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I wasn't thinking straight, or I'd have known what you meant. (...) Yes. And...? (...) When there is production that is going unbought because money that would have been used for consumption (in addition to there being larger production), (...) (25 years ago, 21-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My stance on this is surely colored by the history of the US, but I feel that the primary reason that I live in the greatest nation in the world is the melting pot effect. I would be completely open to allowing anyone who wanted a fair shake (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Irrelevent to the appropriate punishment. I personally know several people who prefered it when the coffee was (to my judgement) assininely hot. McDonalds was supplying a niche product - ultra hot coffee - and people were buying it. They (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Selcuk, (...) Well, it is there, I have seen enough of it. < snipped Turkey info > (...) Well, I was talking about the US mainstream media, for one. I have hardly any information about Turkey, since you are the resident expert. Scott S. (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I think you give corporations too much credit in terms of their power, and you don't seem to care how much power the government has. I don't have to look to far in terms of "it is illegal it won't happen." The Clinton Administration has (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, I think you give corporations too much credit in terms of their power, and you don't seem to care how much power the government has. I don't have to look to far in terms of "it is illegal it won't happen." The Clinton Administration has (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I have to think more about the rest of your post but I did just want to point out: (...) That isn't quite what I mean here. Unless Cisco has invented the entire notion of routing based on IP packets, which I highly doubt (seems to me to have been (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Left out an assumption, thank you, as usual, for not letting me get away with one atom's worth of implicitness. Sigh. Assume the same total revenue take. 40% across the board is surely more distortive than 5% on everything except food (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott E. Sanburn <ssanburn@cleanweb.net> wrote in message news:3885CFB4.9FF04C...web.net... (...) I think this bias mentioned above is a virtual one, and it is mostly in your thoughts. I live in a country, which ruled by Islamic fundamentalism for (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper "I didn't invent Libertarianism, I just laugh at" Janssen wrote in message... <38b4684b.609370836@...et.com>... (...) Weeks (...) <Mega snip> Jasper's post is evidence of my case. Even though Jasper is from a country currently more to the (...) (25 years ago, 20-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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