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  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) He is. But he used to summer in a suburb of Sodom, where all the parents used to enlist his aid as a babysitter whenever they needed to have some alone time. (20 years ago, 14-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) Yes, but they preferred the term Sodomian, or occassionally Sodomish. Of course, they're all dead now, so who cares what they preferred? (20 years ago, 14-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) That's true, if viewed in a certain light. Murder is always wrong, but societies define "murder" according to their own sense of morality. Many people would consider executing criminals to be murder. Texans do not. Many people would consider (...) (20 years ago, 14-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) I thought (URL) was the friend to children everywhere. Dave! (20 years ago, 14-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) First of all, let me say thank you to Lenny for his (URL) input>. He is quite correct that it is falacious to caricature the position of one's opponent and then attack that position as if it were the real one. That's the classic (URL) Straw (...) (20 years ago, 14-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
Isn't a Sodomite someone from the ex-town (city?) of Sodom? Near Gomorrah? ;) Tim (20 years ago, 14-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) Lee, this is an interesting argument against moral relativism - but I doubt Dave is arguing on behalf of moral relativisim. You have assign this belief to him, and then proceeded to attack that belief, all the while you ignore the discussion (...) (20 years ago, 14-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: It didn't have to be this way....
 
(...) The closest I can think of is West Germany, but that might not count due to how short of a time they were under the rule of a despot, and the fact that they were the invading nation, not the invaded. (20 years ago, 12-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A question for my Canadian pals
 
(...) Part of the problem might be in saying that an uncommon procedure is necessarily less accessible to you. In the US health insurance system, expensive procedures usually come with expensive deductables, so while the line in front of you may be (...) (20 years ago, 6-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) Hi Dave, well I certainly can tell by your views you are a moral relativist from your distorted definition of tolerance. There are absolutes in the world. Moral, logical absolutes. There are universal truths that apply to everyone, across all (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Meanwhile, in Another Clark County...
 
(URL) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Clark County, Ohio
 
(...) Ha! Would be interesting to see how many people from the UK would actually go for Bush... DaveE (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Where do I sign up?
 
Let the (URL) fall where they may. Dave! (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Religious Freedom Claim Taken Too Far?
 
(...) I'm not so sure. If the individual citizen enters into and then defaults upon the social contract, then that's not initiation of force--it's enforcement of terms. (...) Now that's interesting. In a true market of options, then a choice to (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Religious Freedom Claim Taken Too Far?
 
(...) Well, perhaps force is too strong, though I'm comfortable with anything the government requires as being forced in that ultimately, if you refuse, the government could escalate to use of force. I agree that the pharmacist's contract may very (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Clark County, Ohio
 
I'm not sure I'd like to be on the receiving end of (URL) this>. Scott A (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Religious Freedom Claim Taken Too Far?
 
(...) Actually, the doctor-to-pharmacy direct link hadn't occurred to me. My family doctor usually still gives us a script and we take it to the pharmacist, though she sometimes calls in the prescription directly, with our permission. That would (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Religious Freedom Claim Taken Too Far?
 
(...) From a libertarian perspective, I'll grant the pharmacist the right to discriminate. What I don't grant him the right to do though is interfere. Refusing to fill a prescription is discrimination. Refusal to forward the prescription to someone (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: It didn't have to be this way....
 
(...) …a despot who was explicitly supported by the West. (...) Some of the world's problems do lie at the feet of the "West". (...) I understand your point. However, we should not make the mistake of believing that those who violently oppose the (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Is lgbt dead in the water?
 
(...) True tolerance entails the recognition that one's own views are not inherently or absolutely correct, but are instead correct for oneself, and perhaps very strongly held. Attendant upon this is the realization that other people's views might (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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