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Re: Religious Freedom Claim Taken Too Far?
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Date: 
Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:51:01 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz wrote:
Dave Schuler wrote:
I'm not sure that "force" is the right word to use there, since it
carries a lot of baggage in a libertarian context (re: the initiation
thereof).  If he agreed, even implicitly, to non-discrimination in
his license (i.e., the contract), then he is in breach of contract if
he thereafter discriminates.  The only force used against him is the
force required to enforce the terms of the contract, as agreed at the
time of contract.  This would be true, I think, even in a free market
system where some analogous license/contract framework were[1] in
place.

Well, perhaps force is too strong, though I'm comfortable with anything the
government requires as being forced in that ultimately, if you refuse, the
government could escalate to use of force.

I'm not so sure.  If the individual citizen enters into and then defaults upon
the social contract, then that's not initiation of force--it's enforcement of
terms.

I agree that the pharmacist's contract may very well require him to not
discriminate. I was talking in the general sense. In a free market system,
the pharmacist might well be licensed by a Christian agency, and thus the
licensing itself might not include a non-discrimination clause for
contraceptives (and might even require it's licensees to NOT dispense
contraceptives).

Now that's interesting.  In a true market of options, then a choice to provide
or exclude drugs would be acceptable, since presumably a particular drug that's
forbidden in one place would be available elsewhere.  I'd still worry that
certain employers might require employees to participate in the employer-chosen
plan, under the claim that the employees are free to choose to go elsewhere for
employment.  Sure, that's fine on paper, but such a choice isn't always
available, and in practice it might amount to an employer-imposed tax on
employees.

Dave!



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(...) Well, perhaps force is too strong, though I'm comfortable with anything the government requires as being forced in that ultimately, if you refuse, the government could escalate to use of force. I agree that the pharmacist's contract may very (...) (20 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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