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Re: Religious Freedom Claim Taken Too Far?
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Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:24:50 GMT
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Dave Schuler wrote:
> I'm not sure that "force" is the right word to use there, since it
> carries a lot of baggage in a libertarian context (re: the initiation
> thereof).  If he agreed, even implicitly, to non-discrimination in
> his license (i.e., the contract), then he is in breach of contract if
> he thereafter discriminates.  The only force used against him is the
> force required to enforce the terms of the contract, as agreed at the
> time of contract.  This would be true, I think, even in a free market
> system where some analogous license/contract framework were[1] in
> place.

Well, perhaps force is too strong, though I'm comfortable with anything the
government requires as being forced in that ultimately, if you refuse, the
government could escalate to use of force.

I agree that the pharmacist's contract may very well require him to not
discriminate. I was talking in the general sense. In a free market system,
the pharmacist might well be licensed by a Christian agency, and thus the
licensing itself might not include a non-discrimination clause for
contraceptives (and might even require it's licensees to NOT dispense
contraceptives). I expect such pharmacies would exist in a free market, but
I would also expect that they would not be used by quite a variety of
medical plans (though I could still see a large company like IBM that
overall doesn't discriminate offering such a health plan as a choice, I
would also expect to see non-discriminatory health plan choices).

Frank



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  Re: Religious Freedom Claim Taken Too Far?
 
(...) I'm not so sure. If the individual citizen enters into and then defaults upon the social contract, then that's not initiation of force--it's enforcement of terms. (...) Now that's interesting. In a true market of options, then a choice to (...) (22 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) Actually, the doctor-to-pharmacy direct link hadn't occurred to me. My family doctor usually still gives us a script and we take it to the pharmacist, though she sometimes calls in the prescription directly, with our permission. That would (...) (22 years ago, 13-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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