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(...) [snip] (...) I think the part about the sinking ship may be just wishful thinking on the part of the democrats, but time will tell. Anyhow, what I'm wondering is what makes you feel this current administration is any more arrogant than the (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: I hope Dave K. will forgive me for jumping in. Here are a few points worth noting: (...) Does that mean that we can bomb Iraq and slaughter civilians for all time, until we are satisfied that the 15% (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you're misinterpreting my analogy... Man Bites Dog is an old cliche for the "unexpected news event"... you sort of (at this point) expect Mugabe to burn down white farmers houses and beat up the last remnants of the free press so it's (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Reading those blogs might interfere with a nice pat and already well thought out view of the world, you know. ++Lar (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They're out there if you want them. I'm sure they've been discussed to death here before, but I don't have time right now to track that down. So once again it's google to the rescue. Here's a short list from one of the sites. Reasons for going (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If you wish to keep on insulting the messenger, all the power to ya. I'm just trying to get a coherent idea of where you're coming from. Stated--the Iraqis have blogs now, they didn't have blogs before the occupation. What'd I miss? So I'm not (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You really should check them out. But I admit it's difficult. There are so, so many of them. (...) Wow, you really have a twisty mind. Of course the war cannot be justified simply because they have the internet now. Where do you come up with (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll have to peruse the blogs more thoroughly when I'm not at work (LUGNET at the office, can only give scant attention elsewhere through the day and keep my job...) But by what I'm reading, the (internet cafe) ends justify the (inept, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, that was one of my less lame attempts to change the subject--just ask anyone. Anyway, from my perspective, I see an Iraqi citizen whose nation was invaded, who is 90% likely to have been incarcerated for no good reason, and who was (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A lame attempt to change the subject. But if you must go there, at least his head is still attached to his body. Perspective. (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did you read any of those blogs? They talk constantly about the electricity situation. You can get even more answers with google. Try searching for "internet cafe iraq blog". Here's the top link. (URL) begins like this: " BAGHDAD — A year ago, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that guy wearing the hood and standing on the box with wires attached to his genitals probably had more than enough electricity. See? The Dubya/Cheney/Rumsfeld reconstruction agency is improving conditions all the time! Dave! (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How many Iraqis have access to the web? Heck, how many Iraqi's have 24-hour electricity? Scott A (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What about: Man feeds dog Man starves dog Man wants dog's bone Man beats dog Dog bites man (...) That is correct; we are setting the standard. Remember (URL) this>: "Mr Rumsfeld said the Geneva convention "indicates that it's not permitted to (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why wonder? Read up. if you're going to speak out for them, then you owe them the courtesy of reading their own words first. (5 URLs) sure to check out the rest of links on the right to see what others there have to say. And heck, while you're (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder at what point does armageddon happen? (...) Good question. Though, for myself, I don't appreciate being dictated to, therefore I shall not dictate to others vis a vis spiritual beliefs, so my god maybe, well, God, but yours doesn't (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's equally easy to lose sight of how bad some of the good guys can be when we mostly hear about how good the good guys "are." (...) I think that's the essence of it. We didn't just go in there to stop a bad guy from doing bad things--we (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder if all the other unnecessary civilian deaths in Iraq make ordinary Iraqis feel equally angry? I wonder if the light sentences purportedly being dished out to those involved in the physical abuse, sexual abuse, rape and murder within (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nice. (...) Ahh, back to the 'US needs to be in Iraq to curtail terrorism towards the US' card. Please tell me the following, in case my 'thinking processes' as you alluded to, weren't 'on' at the time--How many Iraqis hijacked planes on 9/11 (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: [another big snip] (...) That's true, but not for the reasons you think. (Do you think? you write a great deal, but I get the impression you don't stop to think about it first.) 1. With Saddam in (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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