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(...) I wonder at what point does armageddon happen? (...) Good question. Though, for myself, I don't appreciate being dictated to, therefore I shall not dictate to others vis a vis spiritual beliefs, so my god maybe, well, God, but yours doesn't (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's equally easy to lose sight of how bad some of the good guys can be when we mostly hear about how good the good guys "are." (...) I think that's the essence of it. We didn't just go in there to stop a bad guy from doing bad things--we (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wonder if all the other unnecessary civilian deaths in Iraq make ordinary Iraqis feel equally angry? I wonder if the light sentences purportedly being dished out to those involved in the physical abuse, sexual abuse, rape and murder within (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nice. (...) Ahh, back to the 'US needs to be in Iraq to curtail terrorism towards the US' card. Please tell me the following, in case my 'thinking processes' as you alluded to, weren't 'on' at the time--How many Iraqis hijacked planes on 9/11 (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: [another big snip] (...) That's true, but not for the reasons you think. (Do you think? you write a great deal, but I get the impression you don't stop to think about it first.) 1. With Saddam in (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dogs don't know any better. They didn't 10,000+ years ago, and they won't know any better 10,000+ years from now. Men, on the othe hand, are suppose to have this capacity for change, for conscious reasoning, for saying "Just because I can do (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe Dave just realised it (again?)... it's easy to lose sight of how bad the bad guys are when what you mostly hear about is how bad the good guys are. Where was the outrage in the media at all the previous atrocities by the various thuggish (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) [big snip] Doesn't seem that way. :) (...) I don't understand what's different? That's what it's always been about. (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I'm almost at a loss for words. At a time when the world's (including many Americans, btw) opinion was against Bush and Co. for their mismanagement of the Iraqi situation, those stupid <insert expletive here> go do what they did. I don't swear much, (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's just wait and see where the voting public lash their canoes... Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 12-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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It's a really good thing that Bush is standing by Rummy through the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal. This means that George is caught in a classic Monkey Trap. In the jungle, they capture monkeys by cutting a hole in a coconut shell, chaining it to a (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Mmmmm. I saw Geoffrey Robertson interviewed on (URL) Lateline> and while it wasn't the focus of the interview, he got to the nub of what concerns me about this. "...because what we're seeing here is not just the kind of abuse that happens in (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"Kelly McKiernan" <kelly@anagrafyxx.com> wrote in message news:Hx9zyp.13J@lugnet.com... (...) Isn't it even worse when certain Nazis take a few newsgroup posts a little too seriously? ;) It's not like someone's really going to connect LEGO with (...) (20 years ago, 9-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oops. Is (URL) this> any better? (...) Read (URL) this>. (...) lol. So he only wanted to involve the international community on his terms? (...) BTW: I thought we'd already established that Bush is not interested in eliminating dictatorships (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's not really a good comparison, though. FOX is a 24-hour news/propaganda outlet, while ABC and NBC are entertainment channels with occasional news coverage (and pretty crappy coverage, at that). CBS is also an entertainment channel and (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So Fox a free network channel has better ratings than CNN a 'pay for' cable channel. What does that have to do with ABC, NBC, and CBS (all free network channels) all having better ratings than Fox? (...) If you actually belive that, it (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Here's> Dubya, spreading diplomacy and understanding around the world with his politics of personal responsiblity. And here's the important bit: "I was sorry for the humiliation suffered by the Iraqi prisoners and the humiliation suffered by (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It was intended in a sarcastic vein, which I appear to have failed to adequately express. I fully understand the logic behind calling it "Nazi grey" (I actually prefer "gun-metal grey"), on the basis that it's reported to be very close to the (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) FYI, you might find this post of interest: (URL) Though I get the impression that "Wehrmachtsgrau" doesn't necessarily imply "Nazi" but military or army gray, instead. At least Babel Fish says it means "Armed forces-grey". Mark (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Who the heck is voting yes?! I went along to one of his book readings last summer. I was very impressed by him. After an hour of ranting and raving, he took questions from the floor (some from real cranks) for a further hour. He looks twice as big (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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