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  I'm Glad Bush is Standing by Rumsfeld
 
It's a really good thing that Bush is standing by Rummy through the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal. This means that George is caught in a classic Monkey Trap. In the jungle, they capture monkeys by cutting a hole in a coconut shell, chaining it to a (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) Mmmmm. I saw Geoffrey Robertson interviewed on (URL) Lateline> and while it wasn't the focus of the interview, he got to the nub of what concerns me about this. "...because what we're seeing here is not just the kind of abuse that happens in (...) (20 years ago, 11-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change - color names
 
"Kelly McKiernan" <kelly@anagrafyxx.com> wrote in message news:Hx9zyp.13J@lugnet.com... (...) Isn't it even worse when certain Nazis take a few newsgroup posts a little too seriously? ;) It's not like someone's really going to connect LEGO with (...) (20 years ago, 9-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) Oops. Is (URL) this> any better? (...) Read (URL) this>. (...) lol. So he only wanted to involve the international community on his terms? (...) BTW: I thought we'd already established that Bush is not interested in eliminating dictatorships (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) That's not really a good comparison, though. FOX is a 24-hour news/propaganda outlet, while ABC and NBC are entertainment channels with occasional news coverage (and pretty crappy coverage, at that). CBS is also an entertainment channel and (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) So Fox a free network channel has better ratings than CNN a 'pay for' cable channel. What does that have to do with ABC, NBC, and CBS (all free network channels) all having better ratings than Fox? (...) If you actually belive that, it (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Yet another non-apology apology from the Right
 
(URL) Here's> Dubya, spreading diplomacy and understanding around the world with his politics of personal responsiblity. And here's the important bit: "I was sorry for the humiliation suffered by the Iraqi prisoners and the humiliation suffered by (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change - color names
 
(...) It was intended in a sarcastic vein, which I appear to have failed to adequately express. I fully understand the logic behind calling it "Nazi grey" (I actually prefer "gun-metal grey"), on the basis that it's reported to be very close to the (...) (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Color Change - color names
 
(...) FYI, you might find this post of interest: (URL) Though I get the impression that "Wehrmachtsgrau" doesn't necessarily imply "Nazi" but military or army gray, instead. At least Babel Fish says it means "Armed forces-grey". Mark (20 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Disney's public conscience
 
Who the heck is voting yes?! I went along to one of his book readings last summer. I was very impressed by him. After an hour of ranting and raving, he took questions from the floor (some from real cranks) for a further hour. He looks twice as big (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) (URL) This> kills both your points. (...) The last time I looked the UN disarmed Iraq... then Bush invaded. (...) Why ask and then ignore the answer? (...) Who hand-picked the IGC? Who decides who gets power at the end of June? Who rigged the (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) I wonder what Diem's thoughts on the matter would be? Pedro (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  crime rates in NY and London
 
Ran across this article trolling for info about the Google IPO, if you can believe it. I can't comment on the accuracy(1) but I did find it interesting. (URL) particular I found this quote QUITE interesting: " As Eli Lehrer, a crime expert at the (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) And yours aren't as well? (...) Fox is hardly the country's main news source. The much more liberal leaning ABC, NBC, and CBS are the big three. (...) Re-read the previous sentance as it answers your question. (...) The UN has never in its (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) He has to say the "s" word if he wants to play here again. Other offenders do not have to(1); but he does due to the way his "outburst" was used as axe grinding material (IRC). I hope I'm not betraying a confidence when I say I know he lurks (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) Yep, and I don't want foot soldiers to carry the can for (URL) institutional failures> either: In a letter home earlier this year, Staff Sergeant Chip Frederick, one of the soldiers charged, said he had questioned some of the things that he (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) It is my opinion that Richard knows what he has to do to get the ban on posting access rescinded. It's my view he's chosen not to do those things. (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: <snip> (...) I've been meaning to ask, is Richard's ban permanent? I don't have any clue... -Evil Wayne (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Disney's public conscience
 
(URL) from the company that greenlighted "Haunted Mansion" and "The Jungle Book 2." (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: <snip> (...) I don't know but the charm, for me, has faded in o-t.d. I get all excited about something and I banter with Bruce, or Dave! But it's more effort now than it was before. It's like I have to (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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