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  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) Perhaps I'm unclear on your conception of The Big Picture. Here's mine, and I'd be interested to see how it fits alongside yours: The United States is widely perceived to be a hegemonic and militaristic juggernaut bent on securing its own (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) What makes you think I'd want that? I'm lucky enough to live in a country which has a good range of independent national media which reports on domestic and international issues without feeling the need to wave my flag in my face. I know the (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) I can't retract it. It's just a question and an opinion. I'm just saying you *seem* much more unhappy now than you used to be. Do a search on in .debate on Scott Arthur. Then click on "prefer older" and compare the results. It would seem to me (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) This is offensive. I demand you either substantiate or retract that statement! I joined AI in 1987 and opposed SH when Washington/London still supported him. I opposed Apartheid when Washington/London supported it.I’ve even castigated (...) (20 years ago, 5-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) here. People still swim in the ocean even though it's inhabited by sharks. However the media will always cover the shark bite stories because it's easy to sell pictures of shark bite violence. But they'll never tell you anything about the (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) Unfortunately, it's far too easy to justify countless small atrocities by invoking The Big Picture. Here's the well-known and prevailing wisdom on the matter (quoted here, but famous in general): (URL) more and more ugly details keep surfacing (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) I tend to agree with you there, however I suspect your heart and mind are set in their ways, regardless of how this particular event works out. Fortunately, according to the blog, some people (whom this actually concerns) are able to see the (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Being realistic
 
(...) (URL) Things are worse> than I understood: the CIA's former counter-terrorism chief Cofer Black has been quoted as saying about interrogation techniques that "after 9/11, the gloves came off". It is now being reported that there have been (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) If it's "handled correctly" a lot of people will end up in the slammer: (URL) Against the law of war> "the laws of war require that all countries take the necessary steps to ensure that they are respected. All military personnel should receive (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) Inquirer (...) media" (...) relations. (...) over 80 (...) liberal (...) Your comment sounds more than a little subjective. (...) Rupert (...) So we agree that your country’s main TV news source is not liberal? (...) a fact. (...) is right (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Wining Hearts & Minds
 
(...) (URL) particular incident may in fact do just that: Win some hearts and minds if it's handled correctly. (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) Its relevant because most printed editorials in my local papers are liberal propaganda. (...) Yup, that is a good source of conservative propaganda. (...) See overall the media is dead center. That is why liberals think it is right wing biased (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: subtleties of diplomatic language (was Re: Sheikh Yassin)
 
(...) Well, let's be pragmatic about this. If Dubya complains about Sharon's choice to defy worldwide consensus and employ unilateral military intervention, then Dubya can hardly maintain his Straussian "invade them all and let Rumsfeld sort them (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  subtleties of diplomatic language (was Re: Sheikh Yassin)
 
(...) (URL) 50 retired US diplomats> think Bush and Sharon are part of the problem; On Bush: "Your unabashed support of Sharon's extra-judicial assassinations, Israel's Berlin-Wall-like barrier, its harsh military measures in occupied territories (...) (20 years ago, 4-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: April 2004 Advice
 
Steve, if we all invested in gold, rather than the stock market, the stock market would fail. In fact, capitalism would fail! Good luck! Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  April 2004 Advice
 
About three years ago I advised my family and friends to get out of the stock market (especially mutual funds) and into Gold (and Silver) - mining stocks if they wanted to be more aggressive. In a couple of months the S&P had recovered from about (...) (20 years ago, 3-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) Yep, maybe the War on Terrorism will be the (URL) to End All Wars> ROSCO (20 years ago, 2-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) I'm not sure how relevant that is (if true). I'd imagine it's the view of the editor and owner that hold sway. Remember, every-single-one of Rupert Murdoch's 50+ papers supported the war... he also owns Fox News. The right leaning nature of (...) (20 years ago, 1-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) The "security contractor" (mercenary) is (URL) here> too. (URL) An other> of his mates got the same e-mail. In fact, if you search the web, you'll see he mailed the letter to quite a lot of "friends”... like this (URL) one>. Please read this (...) (20 years ago, 30-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Essay (was Re: The status of Iraq from a soldier who is there.)
 
(...) You do know that it is a matter of public record that slightly over 80 percent of American journalists are registered Democrats right? (...) You also know that John Kerry in early 2002 (and Bill Clinton when he was president) are both on (...) (20 years ago, 1-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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