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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (snip worthy summation) (...) Agreed. Its validity seems to flow rather directly and consequentially from some deeply enshrined and rather important principles concerning the fundamental rights of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bruce's big joke only gets funnier. Richard Still baldly going... (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes, they do. As long as the forsake any governmental affiliation is strictly adhered to. That's tough to do today though. (...) But LUGNET, being completely privately funded, ought to (under the free association clause) be completely within (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What does membership in a private club have to do with forcing gays out of their own private property? And, just to address your example, the fictional "Todd" may well have to justify his reason, and to a judge, depending on the Terms of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If I am Todd, isn't that my right? Need I justify my reasons? And to whom? (...) I think the ratio is a lot higher for other reasons. I like this (from their web site): (URL) Fetal Rights> You might suppose that the ACLU might be concerned (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'd love to know how "crimes against nature" are defined. I assume fertility treatments, contraception, GM crops, etc are permitted in Dayton? Scott A (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not the same example. What you want to do is forcibly evict Dave! from Lugnet because he (for the sake of this argument) plays with Brand X, even though he is not doing it on Lugnet. (...) Not doubtful at all - they have defended (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So I should not be able to form a club that excludes LEGO clone-lovers because I am limiting the freedom of Dave! to becoming a member? (...) Doubtful. But even if they did, on what grounds? (...) It's the big joke-- everybody is intolerant of (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My "hypothetical" specifically discounted governmental action, which I think we'd all agree needs to affirm and protect the rights of all. JOHN (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Easily answered: because said bigots are trying to limit the freedom of those that they are bigoted against. If, say, a community that was a majority of Gays attempted to ban Christian fundamentalists from their community ("They aren't wanted (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I accidentally responded by mail... (...) here) and (...) constantly (...) the (...) People can certainly have their own prejudices, but when they try and pass a law to support their prejudices, then it's fair, and in fact imperative, that people (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmmm, I have to agree with you, Dave! Here is the problem. Okay, so you have a group of bigots. They have every right to be bigotted (let's for the sake of argument forsake any governmental affiliations here) and live in their bigotted world. (...) (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Haha! The first thought that entered my brain upon reading the above was "Isn't this the place that brought us the Scopes Monkey Trial?" I clicked on the link and sure enough it's the very same county, not just the state. -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) This kind> of progressive wisdom makes me proud to be a citizen of the greatest nation in the country. Dave! (21 years ago, 18-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm following up to o-t.debate not to be combative, just because I'm not really discussing the MOC much. (...) I don't think it's the punishment that is the novelty here, but rather God's forgiveness. At least the Xtian viewpoint is that Christ (...) (21 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is nothing new in Washington using "fear" to make you a good American. If you read about the work of Edward Bernays, you will see that it is the fear of communism & non-conformity which has been the basis of the economic prosperity of (...) (21 years ago, 17-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Actually I'm keying in on these statesment in particuler: "The whole problem with this idea of obscenity and indecency, and all of these things -- bad language and whatever -- it's all caused by one basic thing, and that is: religious (...) (21 years ago, 16-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure how to resolve the conflicts in the subject header, the actual article, the inferences you draw from it, and Carlin's conclusion, "Society can be counted on to let this fade." :-) (21 years ago, 16-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) on George Carlin to point out the hipocracy of American society. Maybe if the US government stopped perpetuating the cycle of fear we all be better off. -Orion (21 years ago, 16-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now THERE'S an understatement. I finally re-read the original formulation of my example, and the error practically bopped me in the nose. I'll see about reworking it. Dave! (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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