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(...) While we're at it, how literally do you want "democracy" defined? Would you accept that the US, for instance, is actually a republic, not a democracy? BTW I don't accept "The Straight Ddope" as a source, since it has been used against ME in (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps, if he were a Religion major in kollege (as I was). And BTW, I meant Wilt Chamberlain, not Dr J (I guess I got them confused because of Dr J's recent legal problems with his estranged wife...) JOHN (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Of course, but even if we tortured and killed a known torturer and killer, it still wouldn't be morally equivalent to the torturing and killing of an innocent. And BTW, what IS justice for a known kidnapper and murderer of innocent children? (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How literally do you insist on "war" to be defined? Would you accept that the Vietnam conflict, for instance, was actually a war? Chris (21 years ago, 9-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not really. He certainly knows the bible better than I do, and perhaps even better than you do, John... (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And if we stoop to the level of the atrocity committer in our meting out of justice, we are also so doomed. (...) Assuming he did it. I grant it looks pretty certain but never can you be 100% CERTAIN. Do you know for *sure* what exactly (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What I was trying to do was emphathize with the parents of this little girl. I was imagining that it happened to my little girl. So yeah, my reaction was a little personal and over the top. I don't think Dave or I would be justified to torture (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) He is? He is a popular actor, but I wouldn't call it reverance. Hmmmm. (...) Mostly, I'm just teasing about the Queen. :-) (...) There is more flag-waving in this country than in Britain (see the John Neal prototype), or such is my impression. (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, the ongoing Kashmir conflict (and at some points in history all out war) between India and Pakistan... -Orion (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are in denial. Why are your jails full of your black countrymen? You’ll never change it if you don’t confront it. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was referring jokingly to the reverence Tom is shown. (...) The UK is a parliamentary democracy with a constitutional monarch. She’d be set aside if she tried to use what little powers she still holds. Interestingly, she could have stopped (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bush's support for Israel is good for nobody. It is'nt even good for Israel. (...) None of that explains Bush’s support for brutal regimes (e.g. Uzbekistan & Israel) or nuclear proliferators (Pakistan). Scott A (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hi-ho. (...) Yes, you might think that if Jesus, as God-on-earth (or at least someone-more-qualifi...s-behalf), wanted it to be clear to people in his own time (and for all time) that the barbaric morality which the Old Testament portrays as (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I understand that, but aren't you supposed to try? I mean, you're openly embracing your desire to torture another man. I thought (and obviously I don't hold the same set of spiritual convictions that you do, but I thought I understood them a (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I lean towards the Seventh Day Adventist teachings in that death is a sleep during which the "dead know nothing" (Eccl 9:5), which is to say that nothing of a person survives death, that the dead simply cease to exist until they are (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have the same problem, but after having read The Great Divorce by CS Lewis, I have come to as close an understanding as I think I will ever come WRT Hell. His basic premise is that we of our own free will choose Hell, not God condemning us (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I think he did both. He was the Messiah, the hope and King of the Jews, so in that respect he fulfilled the Law and Prophecies. He also introduced a New Covenant, but I would disagree that it superceded the original covenant God made (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not so sure. While I still hold on my faith, I find it deeply distrubing that the atrocities ordered by God in the Old Testament are not reputiated in the teachings of Jesus since Jesus is God. In fact, I find it hard to accept that a God (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17 I remember my mother quoting that to me. And I also remember in the next breath that she said, "And then he (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Woudn't that be like asking Dr J to do a PSA on abstinance? ;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 8-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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