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(...) He shouldn't be in office in either case. And, no, we didn't elect him. If we get to stone every politician who lied, there would be no politicians - not that doesn't sound bad. :-) -->Bruce<-- (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Which is probably why I shouldn't be allowed to get one... Seriously, I'd buy the bullet and pull the trigger. She was 11 years old. This guy, if shown that he did it (as all evidence points towards like surveillence tape and DNA all over his car (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He should be! That's what I was saying. If he just screwed up, he should only be impeached. If he did it on purpose, his fate should be well worse. Chris (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Followed a link from one of my fave comics ( (URL) (1) ) to this: (URL) article> anyone know what the heck this is about? What I mean is what's the root dispute? ++Lar 1 - yes, it's cheezy space opera with a layer of titillation... what's your (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think you're just mellowing in your old age--we all get there :) We also pick and choose our battles, but knowing that our friends will be there when we feel like taking a break from the battles is a good thing. I'm there for ya, Larry. (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Um, why isn't this an impeachable offense? (I admit it, my wife dinged me for this... she pointed out that I was screaming for the head of Clinton because he was an admitted perjurer (over something relatively unimportant, but the principle of (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perfectly agreed--SH's finagling and ousting inspectors and flaunting UN resolutions was a terrible thing. No one has ever stated that SH wasn't a tyrannical dictator with much blood on his hands. But at the time in question--from just before (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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By and large, I agree with DaveK's attack on our president. He lied to us and I believe, still, that he is a bad man. But that doesn't change the fact that Saddam Hussein is also a bad man. Really bad! I do believe that the world is a better place (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "The Iraqi regime ... possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons." -- George W. Bush "We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I care! If he truly blew it, then he is merely unimaginably stupid. (Why was it obvious to lots of CIA analysts, reporters, and other nations around the world, and many of us that this whole thing was rigged, but not to our president?) And (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think I already summed up this same position some time ago right here: either Dubya lied, or he was incompetent. Either way, he led the country into a contrived war, spending billions of dollars, the lives of our troops, ruined our country's (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The rest of your fine post is fatally weakened by the above sentence. Troll through some Bush speeches and you'll find the claims, in plain daylight. Heck, take a look at the Powell speech to the UN just prior, they're there. (to find that (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The reason I asked is because I know for a fact that nobody ever claimed such. It was blown intelligence and everybody bought it (why wouldn't they? SH, the complete idiot, wanted everyone to believe he had them. Bet he never thought we'd (...) (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh come on, John. You HAVE to admit the administration has been backpedaling from their previous claims, even if Dave hasn't provided specific cites from the various speeches. I mean, who has time? (21 years ago, 6-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: "You're wrong--he has WoMD (...) Cites, please. Whom are you quoting? (...) Specific cites of quotations, please. (...) That's just you propping up a straw man. JOHN (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, maybe you could come close. I've seen you use "arrant nonsense"(1) in a sentence before, haven't I? (...) Tool or fool, but not cool. 1 - one of my favorite phrasings (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's look at the exact wuote then, shall we?(seeing as how it;s right at the end of the article, it's pretty easy to find...) " I am not comparing the U.S. to Nazi Germany. But one does begin to understand in all this how the Germans, another (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes, precisely. Chris (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And then go on to compare the US to Nazi Germany! Huh? JOHN (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) People seem to have to state that these days if they start talking about the US administration leading the people down the primrose path, hyping up the 'terror alerts'. Funny how the comparison is, well, not an exact fit, as hardly any (...) (21 years ago, 5-Feb-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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