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(...) What does my opposition to a standing army have to do with the need, or right, to a militia? The militia is de facto -- it is the people themselves. There is no wiggling. I am not telling you that we are currently doing things in strict (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) <snip> (...) Selective interpretation at it's finest! Now look who's disregarding the founders, framers, fathers. Nicely done! Dave K (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This has nothing to do with morality. It has everything to do with your selective interpretation. Either the 2nd is archaic, for you do not supply militia members as needed from 'the people' anymore, the people who join the militia today are (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Looks like my dad was right again -- he mentioned this to me several months ago based on some reading he had been doing...I, of course, told him he was nuts. Frankly, the story seemed too much of a witch hunt, too extreme. And anyway, I didn't have (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Rumsfeld's war-on-terror memo (URL) "It is pretty clear that the coalition can win in Afghanistan and Iraq in one way or another, but it will be a long, hard slog." Related Story: Defense memo: A grim outlook (URL) Gee, what happened to the easy win (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) In the main, the militia merely means an armed group of freepersons that are not otherwise playing some kind of official role or duty. I mean, a sheriff might call together a posse comitatus and work closely with one -- but he remains the (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Excerpt: "You'd think by now people would see the scaremongering for the silly diversion it is. Local TV news actually inadvertently demonstrates how safe the world is. If several hundred thousand kids in the region walk to the school bus (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This is disgusting. Its a flagrant attempt to circumvent the protections of the first, ninth, and tenth amendments. The real question is will most people care enough to stop it. Further proof that our government will take away as many rights (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well I think it was more a tongue in cheek reply to a tongue in cheek question. It is based off of the statement by George Mason “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” I would say that is (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is that true? I don't dispute it, but I wasn't aware of it. If it's true, then what level of gov't official is included? Dave! (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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First just go and see it: (URL) A Band of Brothers: The Rebuilding of Iraq (URL) Recent estimates now put the final figure somewhere between $200 billion to as much as half a trillion dollars over the next ten years. America's Iraq-sticker-shock may (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well now that is interesting. These Blacktron guys look exactly like Confederation Militia Army Troops. An interesting coincidence to be sure but ultimately irrelevant. When you show me a ship which isn't really much bigger than the main (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.test, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not at all. You would be 100% correct as to the meaning at the time of ratification. But collectively, the 13th and 14th Amendment gave freed slaves the status of Freemen. Knowing precisely what that meant, many freed slaves had to obtain guns (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) K, I know when I've had enough and now I've had enough!!!! This thread is off-topic for off-topic!!! Any and all posts that deal with some sort of automatic binding building block do not belong here! I have spoken. Dave K -runs and hides like (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) And we discussed this before--and you added addendums to the idea of "whole people" to not include those that are too young, old, infirm, or mentally unstable. Did you also stop to consider that, in context of the day and age, that "whole (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) "We, the Royal House of Blacktron, are not pleased. By command of Surt, Blacktron the First, you are ordered to surrender and place yourself into custody for summary execution before your peers." -- Black Pearl, Lady Blacktron (URL) -- (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.test, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Dude, I have ships... (URL) -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: WARNING, VERY DISTURBING IMAGES (was Re: Holy crap! )
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(...) Canada. Sure we may have people who have guns in the house--my uncle still has his shotgun from his hunting days--but it's not mandated under law. We have no "2nd" or comparable clause thereof. I haven't heard a Canadian say "I have my gun for (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | The Pledge of Allegience...
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...of the Galactic Confederation. I pledge allegience to nothing, for I am a freeperson. By the ideals of our founders, never shall an innocent be harmed. But, any who threaten my constitutional rights, shall be destroyed by me. This is the pledge (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.test, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
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(...) Not so much in the 'officialdom' of your leaders. (...) Lovely words really. Words like "service" to the country, "defence of the fatherland"... Would almost sound like a draft to me. But I'm not up on all things Argentinian. (...) I have no (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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