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  Re: No Smoking Gun, No Iminant Threat.... and No Surprise?
 
(...) Too true. Billions down the hole, and the net result of this "cowboy diplomacy" is that everyone hates the U.S. as never before. Wonderful! -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Intercepted WMDs from Iraq?
 
(...) If true, I'd expect lots of snarling "conservatives" would have jammed it down our throats by now. It's just a case of wishful thinking (on your part). ;) Scott A Have you had a look at Arthurs Seat Yet? (2 URLs) (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Intercepted WMDs from Iraq?
 
(...) The article stated: "It did not say when or how the smugglers entered Kuwait or when they were arrested." So basically, these are weapons in Kuwait. Yeah, I guess the U.S. is not completely in bed with Kuwait. The rest is speculative as far as (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  No Smoking Gun, No Iminant Threat.... and No Surprise?
 
No Smoking Gun, No Imminent Threat.... and No Surprise? My personal view on SH before we bombed him was that: He probably did have some form of WoMD. He would use them if threatened. He did not represent an imminent threat to the region or the (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Intercepted WMDs from Iraq?
 
(...) At this point a lot of people are in "don't cry wolf with me any more" mode... I know I am. We know Saddam had WMD at some point, that's not in dispute, he used them on his own people. We know Saddam was a very very bad man, that's not in (...) (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Intercepted WMDs from Iraq?
 
(URL) Has anyone else heard of this story? If true, it would be big news IMO-- I wonder why it hasn't been picked up (by conservatives; I know why liberals might want to ignore it;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 3-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Giant Sucking Sound
 
(...) The bigger question is: does free trade, or a free market, really exist in the first place? My answer is: "No." As a consequence of that, everything can be seen as pandering to a particular interest group. Even if we had a truly and perfectly (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Giant Sucking Sound
 
From USA Today: (URL) President Bush (news - web sites) has departed from the Republican Party's deep-seated belief that open markets lead to stronger economies, more jobs and higher living standards. Last year, his shortsighted moves to raise (...) (21 years ago, 2-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Next step... (was Re: Interesting idea...?!)
 
(...) Why don't they move to Iraq? The government is so small there these days as to be completely nonexistent. Plus, the line about "not to invade, but to restore liberty" would be perfectly in line with the stated goals of the Shrub (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Next step... (was Re: Interesting idea...?!)
 
(...) The envelope please. And, the winning state (or losing depending on your outlook) is: Ne Hampshire! Live free or die Libertarian! "Where not here to invade and take over, but to restore liberty," said one spokesperson. In other words: take (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Next step... (was Re: Interesting idea...?!)
 
(...) also, but it's such a beautiful place too. Its one of my favorite states along interstate 80. Anyway, I haven't promised anyone anything -- but if the Libertarian party takes over I might just move there. It won't be worse than Shrub et al (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Next step... (was Re: Interesting idea...?!)
 
(...) (URL) Dave! (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Al-qaida/Iraq link, or not?
 
All hail Governor Bush for coming clean with (URL) this bit> of useful info despite what Cheney was still parroting just days before. And to hear Dubya tell it, he can't understand why a majority of the American people continue to believe that (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Iraqi reconstruction funding
 
(...) I like your thinking on this, Lar. I'm with you 100%. Of course, the "powers that be" might have a different view of these ideas. It makes one want to inquire as to their motives, of course. (...) What people? The future consumers of Iraq, you (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Iraqi reconstruction funding
 
From: (URL) Bush administration strongly opposes using loans for the Iraqi reconstruction request." Why shouldn't Iraq pay for this, exactly? Take me through this logic again? "It argues that Iraq's $200 billion debt is already more than it can (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: visit the new populair lego website
 
(...) Can we debate this? I'm just asking... I mean, yes it's new but is is populair (whatever that is (1) )? Or popular, for that matter? As for Mr. Verbeek, is he saying he's great? Or that his posts tend to grate? or ?? So many questions. 1 - if (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The New Populair: "Intimigate"
 
"Intimigate" Scandal at the White House (URL) WASHINGTON - September 30 - The Center for American Progress has released the attached is a one-page document detailing ?Intimigate?, the White House?s latest scandal. As the document shows, the White (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Voting Fraud (was Re: Sticking my etc.)
 
More on this stuff today... Diebold takes down blackboxvoting.org (URL) This appears to be a public relations gaffe of staggering proportions on Diebold's part. It's not like bunging the terms "Diebold election fraud" into Google brings up only that (...) (21 years ago, 1-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: What's Good for the Goose....
 
(...) I think Lugnet ate my expansions on this topic - I got tired of retyping them and just packed it in on this subject. Essentially, I said the same thing as you do above: clubs open to all centered around topics or activities was fine by me: ski (...) (21 years ago, 30-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  visit the new populair lego website
 
visit the new populair lego website ||| |||(URL) Marco Verbeek (21 years ago, 30-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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