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  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) I'm curious of what conditions you considered in your maths. (...) It is true that the consumption is greatly reduced at night time, which is not to say electricity is not produced or used at all. In fact, much of the electricity generated at (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) OK, that's great. But how much do you think it would cost you to cover your house in enough panels to just break even on energy consumption? If over $10K, what's the point, except the feeling of self-reliance (nothing wrong with that), or the (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
[snip] (...) Well I have done the math it would save my household about $10,000 over the course of the solar panels lifetime versus the current electric bill. (...) Well my house has a gas generator for back-up power already. It is slightly more (...) (21 years ago, 17-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  John Poindexter (was Re: TIA (was Re: A serious clone question)
 
How does the right justify this guy? He's Mr. Secret Government! (URL) Mr. Poindexter was indicted on March 16, 1988 on seven federal felony charges stemming from the Iran-Contra scandal. The counts included participating in a criminal conspiracy (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) One book may be a revelation, or it could be a disgruntled whiner. It may be correct for the situation he was in, but not for the industry at large. It may even be correct for the industry at large, but by itself, it would be hard to draw that (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) And extremely costly. Consider that by the time the solar panels would require replacement, they still wouldn't have paid off their initial cost. Why else do you think non-oil producing countries have not implemented the system? It's not as if (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Unexplained power outages in New York, Toronto, and other cities
 
(...) The solar panels I am referring to are BASED on technology NASA created for solar panel use and construction. A typical home shingled in solar panels would generate enough power to operate lights and small appliances in overcast and light (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) I regret to say I don't know any more than you on this, the word is unfamiliar to me. Rest assured, I'll look into it and let you know ASAP what I find. (...) You're guessing correctly: racism is based on race, xenophoby on passport (to put it (...) (21 years ago, 16-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) I really can’t argue with that, you are quite correct, although I lived for a while in a city called La Habra, I still have no idea what that was supposed to mean in Spanish, Abra I think (...) I looked xenophobic up on dictionary.com to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) The sold portion is small when compared to the conquered portion, as you know. In any case, the main cities are not called St Francis, The Angels, or Sacrament: so you can't deny that Mexico has shaped what you know as California now. If (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) <snip> (...) You, the rest of your country, and the rest of the world. Get the moron out of office--all this reeks to high heaven! Davis was recalled for far less. Dave K (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) But Bush *has* engaged in Lay-favorable cronyism and protectionism, as Bruce has already ably discussed. That (presumably) separates Bush-the-potential-cronyist from Carl-the-potential-rapist. And you haven't addressed McAuliffe in this regard (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) As is any elected governor or president, which proves nothing. I, as a male, am directly positioned to commit rape. That doesn't mean that I do it. (...) For this charge to stick it must be demonstrated that Lay's advisory position was solely (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) Okay, but only if you acknowledge that "liberal media" is demonstrably false, while Dubya's "tax cuts for the rich" is demonstrably true. Dave! (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) Well-said. This country was built on immigration--I'm second-generation American myself. Legal immigration should be cheap, if not easy (we value dearly what we acquired dearly). Immigration should be for the purpose of becoming an American (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) Don't take my word for it--try reading Bernard Goldberg's book Bias. I don't think anyone can make any persuasive argument for Goldberg being conservative. He details from personal experience what happens when one questions the way that news (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) Sure, over 100 years ago, before a war was fought and the area was in essence sold to the US. (...) I feared when I made my post that I would be called a racist, however as a grandchild of immigrants who followed legal chanels to become (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) Come again? Wasn't California part of Mexico in a not-so-distant past? (...) Are you fully aware of how xenophobic that paragraph is, Scott? "Give me your POOR, your oppressed, your hungry..." I guess the words below Miss Liberty are only (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall and IMF-Argentina Negotiations
 
(...) Not at all. Bush, as an appointed maker-of-policy, is directly positioned to engage in heavy-duty cronyism. His intimate friendship with Lay directly paid off for Lay in the form of a key advisory position in closed-door policy meetings. The (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Newsbits: CA Recall
 
(...) Actually, the Democrats kept control over Sacramento because the Republicans chose to run Bill Simon rather than rally behind a competent candidate. Now that this turned out to be a disaster (in more ways than one) they want to invalidate (...) (21 years ago, 15-Aug-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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