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(...) Uh, the stomach to defend the U.S. Constitution, John?! I'm sorry, but I think at least some of us are willing to do that and also have the stomach for it. Freedom is not the same as perfect safety. I can live with imperfect safety if I can (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John, as an outsider, this is not convincing. Half the people you are worried about today were your allies a few years ago! What has changed to ensure the torturers and murderers the USA is nurturing today won't kick you in the ass in 10 years (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Bush & Co think so. I think that they are correct. We shall see... (...) That's it! Isn't this the entire crux of the issue? How does a free and open society protect itself while respecting civil rights? The answer and dirty little secret is (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is my understanding that the money for AQ is known to come from SA, it is not conjecture at this point (if it ever was). The question is: does the SA govt. condone or even know about this activity? Obviously, attacking SA is out of the (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, we could open an exception for cars carrying large amounts of ABS to happy consumers' homes... ;-) Pedro (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why not just go after the Saudis *first*? And why not do it economically instead of via unwarranted war? Arrange our affairs to break our dependence on foreign oil and voila.(1) (Oil is too valuable to burn in cars, it needs to be saved to (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur wrote: "President" Bush's You guys crack me up! JOHN (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Here is one for the conspiracy theorists: what if we know full well that SA is behind al-Qaeda but attacking her is out of the question (seeing as how she is supposed to be our ally, but we attacked Iraq instead as a sort of veiled threat to (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sorry: I was referring to "President" Bush's (URL) drunk driving conviction>. (...) Sorry John. Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not sure to what you are referring or the reason behind the winky, but I think you have confused Mike's opinions with mine. JOHN (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I’ve decided that John’s (URL) that “Drunk Drivers” should be executed has some merit after all. ;) Scott A (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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"The threat is still real because neither invading Afghanistan nor Iraq had much to do with Al-Qaeda, which is itself a supra-national entity largely financed from ***** ******." I'm sorry, but that line had to be censored... the truth is (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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No one is so foolish as to prefer war to peace, in which, instead of sons burying their fathers, fathers bury their sons. - Croesus, King of Lydia in Herodotus' The Persian Wars Al-Qaeda threat 'still real' (2 URLs) The president also said the (...) (21 years ago, 31-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not sure I follow you. Would people prefer to use these pharmaceutical drugs, or would they opt for the more potent and insidious drugs like crack and ecstasy? (...) lol I hope you are being facetious, but I'd bet you're not! :-) (...) It (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What would be better in my mind would be if companies that seek foreign labor pay decent (but not US union) wages. That way, foreigners are able to benefit from such partnerships, creating a win-win situation. Even if foreigners are paid half (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why not tax corporations so that the payroll cost-per-employee is the same whether they employ US or foreign citizens? That is, if the standard US wage is $10.00/hr, and the standard foreign wage is $.50/hr, let's tax the corporation the (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Double standard on globalization (URL) American industry wants to be free to shift labor around the globe. And it fiercely lobbies against any restrictions, such as transnational labor standards. But when it comes to property, business lobbies just (...) (21 years ago, 30-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So instead of legalizing something relatively benign like pharmaceutical grade cocaine or heroin, you have de facto readily available garbage like crack. Crack is cheap, powerfully addictive, and TRULY ruins people's lives quite quickly. What (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The problem with drug usage is not the usage "per se", it's what addicts do once they waste all their money. Tipically, the pattern for drug usage is: you have a job and do drugs, then you lose your job (and income) due to the addiction, then (...) (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Can a parallel be drawn with alcohol in the "dry" twenties? Why? (or why not) Pedro (21 years ago, 29-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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