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  Re: Census help needed...
 
I blame the insurance industry and taxes. When all the costs of living increase and taxes rise, Corporate America wants to cut costs and Ma-n-Pa shops don't pay enough. Not too long ago people earning half my wage could pay for a house, car, (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Census help needed...
 
Where should I be looking for recent information concerning the number of working adults? Reason? The alarming statistic cited here: "Jobless and Hopeless, Many Quit the Labor Force" (URL) portion: ---...--- More than 74.5 million adults were (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Some good news for a change, maybe?
 
(URL) us keep our fingers crossed that something comes of one or two of these pipe dream hobby projects... (note that the header of .space has a link to Scaled Composites website with their press release. As I said in .space, if anyone can win the X (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) I can go with that. Might come up again in the future though, depending on circumstance. Dave! (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Another thing about instant replay, its' annoying when they spend so long on what seems like a simple call. No ordering pizzas. Another thing is they need to make some rules simpler. The tuck rule i beleive is the one which helped the Patriots (...) (21 years ago, 26-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Worse than that: it's too prone to mistakes. It'd be good if instant replay systems were introduced for the 4th referee, so he could assist the main referee on the more dubious cases. Then again, the mistakes are also part of the game... :-/ (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) Neither prove nor cede, merely leave it as an acknowledged point of disagreement. (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) Governor Moonbeam! Jerry is probably the very definition of flakey, but I always liked him. Despite coming from a political family (California Governor Pat Brown was his father, for those who don't know) he doesn't seem like the usual (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) We had Republicans George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson before Gray Davis so I wouldn't call it that much of a Democrat state (Let's toss in Nixon and Reagan, though I suppose one can counter that both of our senators are currently fairly liberal (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) Pardon? If we're held to the same standard, then why do you feel free to dispense little nuggets as if they're revealed truth, but you require me to prove my arguments? (...) Let's hear them. Perhaps, instead of saying "you" in that context, I (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: For Sean...
 
(...) Real baseball players bat. Mark Mulder turns swinging a bat into an adventure. In other words, the DH is as legit as AL pitching and/or relief pitching. BTW Edgar Martinez for the Hall of Fame (Once he retires)! (...) Agreed. (...) Legit call (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The U.S. Economy: The Thousand Yard Stare Through the Years
 
(...) Is the latter the cost paid by the US for the first Gulf war only, or the total cost? The first Gulf war, being sactioned by the UN, was not paid exclusively by the US. Far from it, the bill was shared between many countries. The present war (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Ne or Ni [monty python]
 
(...) I've always thought it was "Nee"! Fredrik (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) Addendum (for clarification)-- "No matter which party." And on that I completely agree. Dave K (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) This should be a non-partisan issue. If s/he wastes taxpayer money, throw the bum out -- doesn't matter which side s/he claims to be on. My favorite CA politician is Jerry Brown -- he's a little spooky, but he rides BART and I think he (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) (assuming your a demo branch demopublican speaking, else it's "the President doesn't control the economy, unless 1) it's strong and he's a Democrat or 2) it's weak and he's a Republican." Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Bush and Davis (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) No, we're to the same standard I would say. (...) There's no better defense than the market of ideas in this sphere but I do not have to prove a point to your satisfaction or else "cede" it. There are other possible outcomes. (...) Well... (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: California the great Democrat experiment
 
(...) Much better to have far-Right conservative clowns at the Federal helm. Bush, as you are for some reason overlooking, has destroyed a far larger budget surplus in far less time than Davis, and Bush has no plans, concrete or abstract, to correct (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  California the great Democrat experiment
 
Frightening (URL) like to call my beautiful home state of California the great Democrat experiment. Every top government office in the state is held by a Democrat, and the legislature is overwhelmingly Democrat. Gray Davis took office in 1998 to a (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Patriotism or Mass Hysteria?
 
(...) You're kidding, right? You're saying, in effect, that you are free to assert your opinions as facts, but I'm held to a higher rhetorical standard? (...) Since you're the one on the outside making the claim contrary to the existing system, it (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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