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  This is odd..."pacifism" takes on a whole new meaning
 
Not sure this link will work..im a member of nytimes.com post here if ya cant get to it... To business. It seems that even peace protesters sometimes get frustrated. It seems they sometimes realize violence is the best way to get things done. the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Parental Responsibilites (was: Megan's Law, and its implications)
 
So, have we debated out this topic? I'm getting sick of the pointless debate going on now... Frank (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) You're dodging. You say you reject the notion of moral relativism, right? I'm not talking about EQ characters or size. I'm talking about the metrics we already discussed... morally: which one is on the side of right more often? In which (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) And yet you deleted all the stuff where I disprove this question--it's one of your very own straw men. How can you ask, "Is this superior to that" without qualifications? Canada's geographically bigger than the USA therefore we're superior. Is (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Left in because I'm still hoping for a yes/no answer. Just a "yes" or "no" without any qualification or equivocation. (...) Why? If we postulate a yes to the question above, then why should the DPRK be on "on an even playfield with any other (...) (22 years ago, 27-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Then you are going to have to explain what you mean by "we are all equal nations". (...) Thank you. (...) Straw man-- I *never* used the UN to justify *anything*. Contrare, I think that the UN is a sham! I used the example of the UN's decision (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Harkonnen? Atriedes? Doesn't matter... ...the spice must flow. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) ::sigh:: Potential has nothing to do with it, just as belief has nothing to do with it. It's an observable phenomena: if you split an atom, energy will be released. Emphasis dropped because it is not a wonder -- it is a known thing. Stop (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Do you honestly think a change of regime in Iraq will stop the flow of money from the oil fields to Al-Qaida? ROSCO (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) You may call it "ploughed ground" but what you say here is contradictory to whay you said earlier-- (...) "The self preservation of our way of life", or as Dubya says in every single speech, "Protecting Americans". And everyone else in the (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes: <snip> (...) All I know is that JRRT used to get his "knickers in a knot" anytime someone brought up the idea that LoTR alluded to the situation in Britain before, during and after the war. I (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Again, I would say that a *country* is on an even playfield with any other country where international relations is concerned. One country imposing itself on another sovereign country because they feel they're 'better' is unjust. What goes on (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) I don't care what you *believe* will happen if you split an atom, potential energy *will* be released. JOHN (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
Potential is not reality. Like hope or faith, it's just something you happen to believe. And I do think you are exhibiting every sign of a kind of myopia. You should have that checked... -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Ploughed ground, but I'll explain again. Saddam supports terrorists (paying Palestinians families of homicide bombers is one example that we are aware). He has, in fact, terrorized his own people with chemical and biological weapons. The man (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Dune, Foundation, and other critics of Empire
 
Y'know, I think that some people read things like the "Dune" series, or Asimov's "Foundation" series as if they were supposed to closely identify with certain characters and as if that were the point. To me the point of these stories is to make (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) I'm not here (in this thread) to assert that we're the very best. It's just clear to me that some countries *are* better than others. I gave an example of a country that's clearly toward the bottom so that there could be no quibbling about the (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) So you couldn't find fault with, then, the idea that Canada is superior to America, because, as polls show, we have a better quality of life than America--we were number 1, and are now number 3, after all... Dave K (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Gee, you're not exactly reaching for much are you? That's like saying that I may not be perfectly sane, but I am saner than Charles Manson. Another post empty of content from the Great and Powerful O...er, Larry. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Break Out the Cristal (trickle-down economics explained with champagne!)
 
(...) Quality of life that they delliver to their citizens, and, more importantly, that they're likely to deliver to their citizens in future. It's not about size, it's not about population, it's not about military might, it's not about resources, (...) (22 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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