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(...) In the interest of full disclosure, I must admit that I haven't listened to him at all for several years, except for an occasional snippet while I'm driving. When I did listen, he played at least as fast-and-loose with facts as Moore does, and (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) lol What makes you think that the onslaught of voters who cast their ballot actually *read* the book, or for that matter, knew how to read? >;^D (...) How common of you! JOHN (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, labels are restrictive and simplistic and I wouldn't necessarily hold anyone to a category. My analysis was chiefly based upon my observation that I am almost always in philosophical disagreement with these 2 guys on many issues, and I am (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> er, forgot to include the footnote so here it is: 1 - Correct placement for Dave! My record on this is certainly among the top posters here... ++Lar (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See, I think this paragraph very neatly spotlights the problem with the one dimensional labeling system in use (because it's simple?) left-right ... liberal-conservative To be fair you did not explicitly label Bruce and Dave! (1) But the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don’t think one is supposed to look at the text as a bible; it is more of a starting point for further reading. I expect most of those who voted read it because it told them what they wanted to hear; not to understand more about themselves (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, it's not like TLC have printed "LEGO" on every stud or something... :) Best regards, /Tobbe (URL) SPAM when e-mailing) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I try...:-) (...) Yes. Reminds me of the People's Choice Awards. I am suspicious of those as well-- I am a believer in relying on the marketplace to define the success of many things. After all, a platinum record sold 1,000,000 (or whatever (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey, that was a pretty good answer. So your complaint is a comment on the award process itself, rather than on which book received the award? I can accept that. (...) Maybe, but it's also useful to Know Thine Enemy! (...) Let's leave Franken (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Truth to say, BPS pretty much matches the above description, imho. Dave K <snip> (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's a tricky accusation, and it's circular reasoning besides! There are many examples of "art" that I "understand," but I still find them to be garbage. (...) Although in the broad sense your statement can be true, but it is at least as (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Good luck in court;-) JOHN (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps, but then again, I *was* an Art Major in kollege... (...) Gotcha. Go ahead and try and list one, and you will instantly realize what I am talking about. (...) Right, and the same applies to the question "what is art?" The bottom line (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. The indenting/nesting of citations is quite clear on that point but since I left none of your words I should have trimmed your tag away too. Sorry. (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just a housekeeping note here-- the words above are not mine, but -->Bruce's<--. JOHN (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, let's back up a moment. I am suspicious of anything such as a "book of the year" award, *especially* if it is open to a public vote. What the public likes is often quite silly and rarely serious. I would hope that a winner of such an (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A good writer of fiction and propaganda, yes. And to be fair, that's all he claims to be. When pressed, he doesn't claim to tell truth. My issue with him is that he doesn't disclaim very well at all and the credulous are (perhaps deservedly (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think this book is great! It's a good thing that it won. It will give it a publicity that will make it even more popular. Terry (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, John, maybe you just don't understand art ? Don't forget that not so long ago, many great artists were considered doing filth and obcenity too... These artists are now the great ones that we study in art school. Artists, in my opinion, (...) (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have not read the book, but a friend of mine use to get his daily (weekly? whatever) e-mail message. Moore was quite a good writer. Much more coherent than say, a Rush Limbaugh. I'll have to get the book, now. :-) -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 26-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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