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  Gun control (was: Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press)
 
(...) My guess would be that the possession of weapons by Palestinians in the occupied territories, is regulated by the Oslo accord. This agreement regulates a number of issues in the area, for example Israeli settlement construction and the mandate (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
I think Richard and Chris answered most of your other points. (...) Well why did they not let the UN in? (...) Indeed it does. (...) Do you have proof of that, or is this your old view: Palestinians = terrorists. (...) It should be the press's aim (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) Well, we're not. I speak from experience when it comes to airport security. Talk about your window dressing? More hassle, more inconvenience, more delay, but no more actual security. Just a big shiny new agency to suck up tax dollars and (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) Only if you say so, Lar. "The scurrilous loss of freedom in the name of security, and other changes, and blindly support(ing) the Prez" would almost be worth it IF we were getting real value for those changes. That's a HUGE if, and it just (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) I'd prefer that Israel just issue the caveat that when they feel the need to shoot in a particular direction, they aren't going to hold their fire merely because members of the press are in the way. Then, the press members can make their own (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) John, You really are a worry. I wish I could just dismiss all the news I dislike as being part of some sort of conspiracy. Life would be so much easier! The facts were: 1. Heavy gunfire coming form Jenin 2. Israel, a nation with an appalling (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) Well the West Bank is the world's worst place to be a journalist: (URL) A (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) Speaking of damned if they did, damned if they didn't... (and otherwise only VERY LIGHTLY linked to this thread if at all) (URL) so happens that I do not quite support the theory that KP is advancing (that we need to line up docilely for the (...) (22 years ago, 27-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) bias (...) Hmmph. Media, schmedia. A quote from the news this morning: "Israel has had to endure 5 suicide bombings in the last week, 2 of which resulted in deaths." It has been my understanding that *all* suicide bombings result in at least 1 (...) (22 years ago, 26-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) I thought they called themselves "the right" because, for all their faults, they retain a healthy sense of irony. 8^) Dave! (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) is (...) I hope that the majority of scientists are out trying to prove the null hypothesis! The whole goal of the scientist is to devise every possible way of disproving their idea and carrying out those tests. Only when they are unable...and (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) Correct:-) You know Chris, they don't call the right "right" for nothing;-) (...) Which leads to the question, why do "studies" at all? Seems to me that their purpose is to influence popular opinion by their results and advance agendas, (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) Just like the center appears to be the left when viewed from the right. Right? Non serious studies are those that set out to support a point as part of a funded agenda rather than to seek the truth. I would suggest tobacco health studies done (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) I agree. What irks me is the unwillingness of the media to acknowledge their own leftist leanings in their reporting, and their willingness to go way beyond the scope of their job description. (...) Possibly. But again, the arrogance, the (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Poor Target....
 
I love you guys. Well, it's been real...back to work. But first I gotta go return my Gunship at KayBee! Just kidding =) I feel good today, hope everyone else does, too. -Matt . (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) This is more of an unobtainable goal than an actual job description. Balanced reporting is a moving target and the best a reader can hope for is to understand the bias of the author of any given text -- then the reader is well positioned to (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) "Serious"??? As opposed to what other kind?:-) Well anyway, from the left, the center does appear to be the right;-) The reason the rumours of a "massacre" lived so (...) No, the rumors persisted because the media was so jaded by their bias (...) (22 years ago, 25-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The skinny on Jenin, the European Press
 
(...) As I have said before, serious academic studies have shown that the Western Media has a pro-Israel bias. The reason the rumours of a "massacre" lived so long was because the Israel did not allow the press into the area (indeed they would (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Poor Target....
 
(...) I'd like to brag about a scam I pulled of in my college years, could we have a no-flame support group for this sort of thing on LUGNET or is everyone here more morally complete than me? TRU probably hated me, but KB and my LEGO pile loved me (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)
 
  Re: Poor Target....
 
(...) Pesonally, I don't appreciate the braggadocio aspect of the original post. However, heres a counter example (hypothetical of course)... Suppose someone takes the Target ad into a WalMart and asks "see this ad, will you match Target's price ?" (...) (22 years ago, 24-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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