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  naiveté (was: Re: Extropianism)
 
Do I smell a troll? (...) I would like to hear the basis for it too. I know that I'm innately good, but I do see an awful lot of seemingly bad people. In many ways I support the LP platform, but I don't think innate goodness is needed for it to (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The Ozarks (was: Re: What happened?)
 
(...) What? I've never been to Springfield (though they do have the region's best wine shop, so I keep meaning to go) but I've looked at maps and I'd think it was inside the range of Ozarks near the Western edge. What do you mean? Most of Southern (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) Like David Koresh? (...) I think that Mob Rule is where we are now...oh yeah, that is a representative democracy. (...) Fetal testing or murder? Both, I guess. (...) I do not support those things either. But here's how I view the words (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) I think environmental protection and animal "rights" are harder than defense to privatize. In fact, I think defense is relatively easy. Probably easier than roads. (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Americans are gonna destroy the Earth!!
 
(...) Did you read "Jurassic Park", or "Disclosure"? If you want to rant on a hack, how about Stephen King or that Goosebumps fellow RL Stine? -John (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
<3792817C.F236D232@voyager.net> <3792A1E5.40255C5D@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) I am. You are. In fact I give criteria below. This turns on innate goodness vs. evil, but one germane (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Americans are gonna destroy the Earth!!
 
(...) Must be more than one, that's not it. I think it is a single word title that is something similar to "Singularity". It has a picture of a sphere on the cover (and no, it is NOT by that hack, Michael Crichton... his last good book was Andromeda (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What happened?
 
You were getting on about how great Europe is compared to the US. My point is that the US economy, having just went through a period of some deregulation, and a period in which a number of new industries sprang up faster than the government could (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Perl rules!
 
Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) OK, I'd class those as incompetent rather than poor. Not that I'm pedantic at all. (...) Most likely, as I'm good at misunderstanding things like that. It sounded to me as though you were tending towards saying (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
 
  Re: The Americans are gonna destroy the Earth!!
 
(...) I don't know the name of the author eitehr, but I believe the book was called "Ring of Fire". Great book! (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) First, explain to me how 2 gay men "create" a family. Not possible. Unless, you say, if they adopt. In my perfect world, there would be no children for such "couples" to adopt, because orphaned children would be care for by immediate family (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) You'll have to pardon my ignorance. I am really trying to understand what you are saying. (...) Ok, I buy that. Who, would you say, determines or is qualified to determine which is superior? (...) I am confused. Are we talking about moral (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Americans are gonna destroy the Earth!!
 
Thanks for the link. This whole story (right down to it being set at Brookhaven) sounds eerily similar to an SF story I read where a singularity was formed (complete with an entire universe inside of it) thanks to some very energetic particles. The (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What happened?
 
(...) Well that certainly explains why the US and Britain diverged so much after WW II, with the US stagnating and Britain going on to happy shiny people ville. Or why the PRC with so many many people and so much land is so much more advanced in its (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What happened?
 
(I haven't responded to some points because this posting was getting ridiculously long :) ) (...) You're still putting the emphasis on 'choose' whereas I'm trying to point out that sometimes it's not a question of choice as unsufficient knowledge or (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
<3790D4A4.AC909B52@voyager.net> <379164EC.11208B2B@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, you're being inconsistent. Let me summarize the points I'm making again rather than interspersing (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) folly of allowing a (...) owner to open a (...) crime, etc.) (...) That one is possibly a bad example - since arguably if you open a brothel in a residential neighbourhood you are affecting the rights of the people who live around there - (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Government's role [Was: Re: What happened?]
 
(...) OK - I'll bite on that one. I would agree that the traditional nuclear family as a good foundation on which to build a stable society. However, I can't see any reason why a family with - say - two gay men at its head shouldn't be equally good, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What happened?
 
(...) I'm not sure you can really compare the US economy to Europe's since Europe still doesn't really have a single economy - after all isn't that one of the problems the Euro is having? We've got some countries doing well and some countries not (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Americans are gonna destroy the Earth!!
 
Its the end of the world as we know it!! Now if you surounded yourself in a Lego bomb shelter would the ABS provide any protection? Now that being said and kidding aside, being an American I feel that I am probably in the minority of Americans in (...) (25 years ago, 18-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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