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(...) Nope...don't agree...I liked the message the person was getting across...I didn't want to share it wih the debators...I would consider that a useless action in most cases...I wanted to share it with the populace of LUGNET who would appreciate (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps you'd care to forget. That's the coward's way. I prefer to remember. Why do we have an Arizona memorial? (...) I always have and always will. It pleases me now to note that you didn't answer the questions. (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Who exactly is saying that? (...) Yes, we should seriously address our meddling and intervention and supporting the wrong sides (or any side of a no good guy conflict). But not now. Now is not the time. Now is the time for disease treatment. (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Declarations of war come from nations, not from individuals. His declaration of war against the US was his own posturing. He does not represent his country, as the actions of the IRA do not represent theirs. (...) And this is exactly my point. (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Geez, I hate to play cop here, but the whole thing belongs in off-topic.debate starting with the first posting. Is it just me Matthew, or do you keep asking people to not debate things and then debating them yourself? I think the least that (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Acknowledging that you don't have the answer is a start. Acknowledging that your ideology may not be the only right one is the next step. Demonstrating the willingness to understand someone else's position follows that. Then you might just (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're gerrymandering the facts, either deliberately or otherwise. The attack on US soil was itself an act or war, and if bin Laden is indeed responsible, he himself declared war on the US long ago. If the US responds to his declaration by (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D0 you actually have a plan, a suggested approach? I must have missed it. Or are you just spewing hate, as usual? ++Lar (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Okay. But what part of the fact that they are willing to die for their cause didn't you get? Did you have some other worse punishment in mind? Tuesday's events were not brought on by a few moments passion -- but rather by the dreadful (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bin Laden was trained by the CIA to fight the Soviets. At the time, he probably thought the USA was supporting his ideology, rather than simply persuing its own anti-communist one. USA suport then rapidly disappeared. He was then witness to (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bull. You are trolling for debates...and if you want to debate 200 year old history and claim correlation to the events of 9/11, fine...you'll get your wish... (This'll likely get into jingoistic retoric according to most...so what? I'm quite (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dave: I think some of you may be confusing "give peace a chance" with doing absolutely nothing and taking it on the chin. I am not advocating that at all. I absolutely think it's time we take a long hard look at the air transportation industry and (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree that terrorists are made, but what exactly makes them? You claim they have perceived injustices against them. I keep hearing them referring to us as devils. We buy their products, offer aid, preach peace and still find terrorists (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GJM51s.HFz@lugnet.com... (...) Larry, where do you fundamentally disagree with me on many levels? When have we had disagreements? I hope you were not reading my earlier reply as my (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Obviously... (...) Much of this sounds like jibber jabber. As for preparing out children for future attacks I think we need to prepare them for the fact that this is a reality in the world and we are going to fight it. That means more people (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Same here, Dan. As a student of history, I've always said two things-History always repeats itself and a limited war is a lost cause. Why is Israel having problems with terrorist activities? Because they won't deal with the problem. The keep (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll admit it. I was tired. I'll assume that it was close to 3am when I posted it. I know it was later than 10pm. And by 'Take them all down', I am referring to terrorists, not Muslims. (...) My solution is no more radical then that which was (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let's see...1993-attempted bombing of WTC. Our Response: give peace a chance. 1999-twin bombing of US Embassys in Africs Our response: give peace a chance. 2000-The wanton destruction of the USS Cole Our Response: give peace a chance. (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nope. Just saying what I feel right now. Absurd is hijacking jets with the intent to run them into office buildings. My response is certainly not absurd in light of this act. (...) Not at all. It's more like 'no misguided Aryans=no Aryan (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Because those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. thanks, James (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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