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(...) This assumes that some will be allowed to "follow." (...) I agree to a point. If you're willing to rule out mass murder as an option, then you are spot on. Your whole point about disconnecting religion (religion shared by many) from these (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.general, Scott Arthur writes: <snip> (...) This is great but how do you suggest we "tackle the philosophical legitimacy" of whomever did this? And how do you suggest we ensure that events such as these never happen again without all out (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If the USA acts with the brutality that many seem to expect/want more martyrs will be created and the events of yesterday may well be repeated at some point in the future by those who follow. Only tackling the apparent philosophical legitimacy (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Eric Kingsley" <kingsley@nelug.org> wrote in message news:GJK1F4.7tD@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) prevent (...) with (...) terrorism (...) the (...) die. (...) war to (...) you (...) of us (...) the US (...) it (...) and it (...) (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How do you strike back "morally"? Obviously people like this are not going to just give up. (...) Make no mistake, this is war. The only way to deal with terrorists is with terror. That may seem harsh but if we want to do something against (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Interesting quote from CNN online: Russian President Vladimir Putin also sent a telegram to Bush. "Dear George," he wrote, "such an inhuman act must not go unpunished." I'm sure that the US is going to strike back at the terrorist (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) PERSONAL: Just got back from Lamaze class...thank you Larry...I really don't want to see this kind of debate on LUGNET right now...how about we look into pulling together right now, instead of attempting to play pundit here in a forum where it (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm a seasoned traveler, as soon as it became clear that there was a chance that flights might start delaying, I got a rental car as a precaution via landline to our agency. 5 min after that NWA was on the PA saying that the airport was (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He rented a car and drove to Indy. (URL) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Nod, I'm sorry I replied in the first place. There are people still alive in there! CNN just showed a video of the first plane smashing into the building. very sad. :( (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In my afternoon class my only absence was a student of Middle Eastern background. Perhaps it was only coincidence, but it is quite possible he didn't feel secure about coming to school today. I too hope people keep their heads about this and (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I also support this suggestion. In other news: Larry--where are you right now? Are you camped out at the airport or did you find other accomodations? Dave! (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ross Crawford writes: <snip> You KNOW I have lots to say about this but let's take Matt G's advice and let it sit for a few days. Whatever we have to say about it isn't going to change what the real world decides to do in (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) that (...) a (...) believe (...) the (...) have (...) life (...) great (...) When (...) [1]? (...) 'winning' has a positive sound to it and I think nothing about this situation or the actions that must be taken is positive. I'm not sure what (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) When people fight wars they kill people. It's very sad, especially when you consider that most of these people don't consider themselves 'evil' but are convinced that they are right (it's possible that they were 'mis-guided' by their leaders). (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So what hard descisions do you think are appropriate here? Do you agree with GWB when he says we can "win the war against terrorism" [1]? ROSCO [1] Read the speech here (URL) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) -snip- (...) make (...) retaliate, (...) Interesting questions and statements Ross. Today's events are certainly very, very tragic and saddening. The long term effects of these attacks could/will be devasting. I hope the U.S. first finds out (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) everyone (...) Although I'm generally a left-wing peace supporting citizen the events of the last year here in Israel (and now the horrible unbelievable attack in NY) have convinced me that when dealing with people that have no regard for (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) everyone (...) Why not? (...) on civilians? Yes, I can. They're all people, even if they may be somewhat mis-guided. Trouble is, Bush seems to be saying he wants to retaliate against anyone who harbours terrorists. And how do they decide who (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't coun't an attack on terrorists as terrorism. can you really compare an attack on a terrorist training camp to an attack on civilians? You are right though, retaliating won't stop terrorism, it would just make it harder. That's a good (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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