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  A Brave New World
 
I wonder how many people here have read Aldous Huxley's *Brave New World*. Many of the recent debates echo of things within this book: population control, sexual experimentation by young children, individual rights, ...and so on. While I am not (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
(...) If we don't, then doesn't it seem that something more significant than a popular vote on handguns is in order? If we all agree that our congresscritters are untrustworthy, perhaps we should just throw the old system away and start anew. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
(...) That is not how (well, actually, I suppose we _could_ make it happen that way) our constitution is changed. (...) I'd rather we just do away with all weaponry. Might as well. (...) Everyone in my neighborhood is armed. There hasn't been a (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
(...) Yes, we are a representative-democracy (re-public). But we elect our mayors, governors, congressmen, and presidents by casting our individual votes. In a presidential election each state carries a number of electoral votes consistent with the (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Anniversary of a hoax? (was Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon)
 
(...) Chances are the anomalies you refer to are the ones pointed out in the Fox special awhile back-- I think they covered most of the bases, including the Van Allen radiation belts-- This link covered it pretty well, along with some pointers to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: National vote on handguns?
 
America is *NOT* a democracy, it's a republic. Laws are not made by "mob rule". jt (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Anniversary of a hoax? (was Re: Conspiracy theories: men on the moon)
 
(...) I had never questioned it before some friends pointed out the problems - now I'm leaning more to the skeptic side. I see the biggest problem being the radiation. Could you point me to your "anomaly refutation" site? At the moment the only (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  National vote on handguns?
 
It's too complicated to follow all the posts about handguns and automatic weapons, so I'll throw the following idea into the wind. Since America IS a democracy and every individual has an opinion on handguns and automatic weapons, why not put it to (...) (23 years ago, 21-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The position of authority (was: Handgun Death Rate)
 
(...) The difference may be a matter of scale (The U.S. is much larger than the U.K. both in size and population -- hence we are each of us less represented, or more distanced, from our representatives esp. at the federal level) and the fact that in (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Something else. I'm not arguing agaainst clarity. I think it would be great for all concerned to clarify the constitution. But you're assuming that a process which had the task of reviewing and amending the constitution would end up with a (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) No, we have a highly efficient method of dealing with that problem that involves lots of wealthy folk charging around on horses after a pack of hounds. Cruel, but I can sit back and let them have their fun. It's the ridiculous arguments that (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Couldn't resist
 
(...) Well, I *AM*! -Shiri XFUT .o-t.fun (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Are you kidding? Chris (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) Prisoners. Some previous prisoners. Children. many mental health patients. The homeless. People with a sloppy hand. Did I miss any? Chris (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: What has happened to .space?
 
(...) My mother. And hey, what's wrong with talking about me, huh Jesse? ;-) -Shiri (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) So busy, Larry, you've had to post twice just to keep up! :-) I was curious about the shortening of the shotgun though. Over here the sawn-off shotgun is the stereotypical east-end small-time shop/bank/bookie's raider's (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Handgun Death Rate
 
(...) The only point you seem to be making is that guns kill and therefore they must not be tolerated. More than once you have asked me if this is the best that I can do. I think that I have done qite well in showing other perspectives of this (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The position of authority (was: Handgun Death Rate)
 
(...) Good idea. The tiny majority in your last election is similar to what kept the Tory government hanging on to power by their fingernails for a while over here. With only 40% of the vote, they still managed to keep just over 50% of the seats in (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The position of authority (was: Handgun Death Rate)
 
(...) Maybe it's not a very solid argument, since I don't think any one individual is likely to fall into both camps. But, from what we see of your election campaigns it's all about who can throw the most money around, and behind the scenes offer (...) (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Flag Burning
 
(...) You drumbeater! 8^) Still, can we agree that an apparent tension between believing that someone has a right to do something and also believing that that person should LEAVE to do that something elsewhere? Dave! (23 years ago, 20-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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