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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:<37A31290.13E5B...er.net>... (...) As for the statement "mighty white of you," it would be offensive to anyone it is directed at, as it usually points out poor behavior. I have never seen (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
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I've followed up to .debate for a few points (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
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Insulting is an art form. One needs to choose the proper sized brush. This is an example of unintended splatter, I think. (...) If you'd said "that is mighty generous of you", it would be offensive in an acceptable way, in context... that is, you'd (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry, I think this may be a misunderstanding based on differences in meanings of phrases. Either one of us doesn't know the true definition or the definition has changed in different locales. When one is generosity is described as "being mighty (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's all it is, I don't see how to take it any other way. Personally, it offends me, though I don't care a spit about the rest of you guys' arguments, because I don't have any train windows to sell, except maybe some red ones from 5571s, and (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
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Fascinating. To reiterate, I have always understood "mighty white" and "mighty christian" to be equivalent insults (to non whites and non christians, respectively). There isn't a dictionary per se to go look these up in. we build our understanding (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) it (...) Tom, Perhaps I have come to understand only one meaning of that statement, or perhaps I don't see it as racist. Either way, it was not meant as a racial slur. Also, I think that Lar was referring to not wanting the train _door_ from (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
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Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37A3C5AD.CDFF9A...ger.net... (...) I've always been under the impression that to be an indian giver is to act as the US did in giving the indians some land and then coming along and taking it (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Lewis and Clark expedition notes talk about this, yes. Not necessarily randomly snatching something back, but, say, giving back a gun and taking back a horse when the gun was no longer needed, or deemed to be of little value compared to (...) (25 years ago, 1-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was born and grew for a while in California and grew up to adulthood in Tennessee. I've heard people say "mighty white of you" in both ways you describe. Any kind of attempt to assign a meaning to a phrase like that is doomed without (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Just noticed what might appear to be a contradiction here. Not really, if memory serves. The few times I have heard "might white" mean something that could be interpreted as racist towards non-whites, it was also clearly meant as (...) (25 years ago, 2-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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IIRC, from my undergraduate folklore and linguistics classes at UC Berkeley, the phrase "mighty white" originated in the southern states before the War Between The States, and carried the DENOTATION (exact meaning) of "honorable in business (...) (25 years ago, 3-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Thanks. That supports my contention that the phrase is insulting to non whites. It may have transmuted in meaning over time... (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suspect it has. I have always seen the phrase (or similar ones) in a context that is racist, but towards whites, not vice versa. In my experience, "mighty white of ya" is usually (contextually) an implication of dishonest dealing. (giving (...) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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James Brown wrote: <snippage of putting down whitey> (...) That's mighty Canadian of you, James [1] -John [1] Ya hoser;-) (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) So, like, does that mean you want them? One time offer, eh. Unless you've got beer. I'll, like, give them all to you if you've got beer, eh. Koorookukukukukuku! So, like, welcome to the Great White North, eh! James (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) That is just _so_ gay.[1] Jasper "I live under bridges" Janssen (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote in message news:37bac394.436675...net.com... (...) I catch myself using that one (dating myself a bit, unfortunately) sometimes. I'm more concerned about getting in trouble than offending someone, (...) (25 years ago, 17-Aug-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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