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Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Mike Poindexter
Well, I understand this happening. I have done it to other people's pictures and they have done it to mine. I never considered it a major problem, but I have only once had an email from somebody. That person was mad and I told him it happens all the (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

	Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Frank Filz
	(...) A couple things. First, grandfathered eBay sellers may not have a credit card on file. Second, while I don't know how things have changed, I have been burned by one seller (who burned a bunch of other people). I've given up trying to recover (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

		Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Mike Poindexter
		True, some sellers have been grandfathered in, but how many people who are going to do fraudulent activity have an account that old? I would venture to say that most people who would have done that probably already have. Fraud is a big deal, but (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

	Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Lawrence Wilkes
	(...) So basically you are saying that copyright means nothing and you believe that anything that anything that is on the web is up for grabs? Putting that small issue to one side (as you dont seem to believe in copyright judging from your post), (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

		Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Mike Poindexter
		lawrence wilkes <lawrence_wilkes@msn.com> wrote in message news:Fs8zDC.8o4@lugnet.com... (...) that (...) No, I am not basically saying that. You have a copyright for that picture posted where they can't see it (i.e. it isn't in the auction listing) (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

			Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Christopher Lindsey
			(...) Loss of income (or potential income) is basically the crux of the issue. If you can prove that you potentially lost $2500 due to copyright infringement, it's a felony. I suppose if you had an auction for a really expensive item and someone (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

			Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Gus Altobello, Jr.
			On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 22:41:53 GMT, "Mike Poindexter" <lego@poindexter.cc> wrote: [... many snips...] (...) Wrong. There was ample evidence that this picture was not a "public domain" set picture. That evidence is that there was no statement saying (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

				Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Mike Poindexter
				Gus Altobello Jr <altobello@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:g638esgabu57n7u...4ax.com... (...) if (...) on (...) Agreed. (...) people (...) at (...) cost (...) cents, (...) it (...) of (...) NO! That is something that has actual artistic or (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

			Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Lawrence Wilkes
			If you look at my original posts I didnt go on about copyright. I only observed that he ignored it, and on copyright grounds alone I could have asked for the auction to be stopped. Which I didnt. The main point I made was that this was someone (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

			Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Jeff Stabile
			<major snip> I may be wrong and I'm certainly no lawyer but doesn't a copyright actually involve more than just SAYING its copyrighted? Similar to a patent? And doesn't abuse of a copyright mean damage to profits or income ala pirated movies and (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.market.auction)

			(canceled) —Jeff Stabile

				Re: Ebay acution - Potential Fraud? —Kevin Wilson
				(...) No. If you produce an original work, you have copyright in it automatically. You can register it if you wish, but you don't have to. (...) No. If you sue someone for copyright infrigement, then actual monetary loss comes into it, but copyright (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.market.auction)