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Re: Clear line between Auctions and Trades
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade
Date: 
Wed, 23 Jun 1999 05:57:58 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Frank Filz writes:
> I've seen a few crossover situations which might be candidates. I've seen
> auctions which indicate that items may be withdrawn for trade. The
> implication is that if you offer a trade the auctioneer likes, he'll close
> the auction and do the trade.

Well, but how many auctioneers -won't- ever withdraw some item for a trade
if need be?  Disclaimers about reserving the right to withdraw something for
a trade are pretty common.


> I'm not sure how I feel about these. They still are an auction of course,
> just that if you offer the right trade, the auctioneer automatically values
> that trade as effectively unlimited value, and saves everyone time. On the
> other hand, as a bidder, I would be pissed at this kind of situation,
> especially if I get no opportunity to make a counter offer.

I don't think these are any different than any other kind of auction.  I've
never seen any LEGO auction where the seller committed/guaranteed/promised
that he/she would sell the item and waive the right to withdraw it.


> I'd have to say that I would prefer to see auctions stay in the auction
> group. I would also prefer that trades only be accepted as a method of
> payment (of course it's fine to negotiate a possible value of your trade so
> you know how high you can bid), and not cause items to be withdrawn. Please
> do indicate if you are open to trades though, and specify what you're
> looking for.

Yeah.  I agree.


> I also wonder if auction updates shouldn't be posted, rather everyone
> who's bidding be kept in the loop with e-mail? I get tired of wading past
> auctions updates for auctions I'm not interested in. One thing to consider,
> at least keep your updates threaded like Geoffrey Runge has.

That'd be the ideal thing.  But sending out email to a list of people can
sometimes be a lot more work than simply posting an update.  I don't enjoy
wading through reams of updates either, but it probably wouldn't be helpful
in the grand scheme of things to require that people conduct updates via
email only...

--Todd



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  Re: Clear line between Auctions and Trades
 
(...) I've run auctions and unless I state that I reserve that right for myself, I feel committed to sell said item at or above the minimum bid that I set from the beginning. Is this not how everyone feels? I would be insulted and NEVER buy (...) (27 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)

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  Re: Clear line between Auctions and Trades
 
Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) I've seen a few crossover situations which might be candidates. I've seen auctions which indicate that items may be withdrawn for trade. The implication is that if you offer a trade the auctioneer likes, he'll (...) (27 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)

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