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(...) Let's be careful to distinguish between what one *has* the right to do, and what *is* the right thing to do. Others have posted some great analysis of the legal side of things. I'll leave that to them, (after giving my hearty thanks, I learned (...) (22 years ago, 30-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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"Matthias Jaenichen" <mj@edv.jaenichen.biz> wrote in message news:upsnua.5k1.ln@g...hen.biz... (...) Hopefully (...) I can't believe this is so hard for some of you to understand. Bram has no problem with someone copying his work. Nobody should. (...) (22 years ago, 30-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) I didn't have a problem with the seller selling a Lego Lamborghini, I had a problem because he was selling my Lego Lamborghini, or a close approximation thereof. If you still don't believe it's copied, see some of the other posts in this (...) (22 years ago, 30-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) No, *she* does not! But we are getting into the areas where the laws of various countries differ. Generally you can only assume that copyright is protecting the text/image and not the idea. For example in Australia ... taken from (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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"Bram Lambrecht" <bram@cwru.edu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:H7wIr4.BL4@lugnet.com... (...) been (...) of (...) his (...) compensate (...) can (...) credit (...) I am sorry to read that you still feel you have more rights here. Hopefully you never (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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Good, it took guts to speak up and say something. Plus you found out what you suspected. wow. e (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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Well, I contacted the seller, and he apologized. He admitted that he had been inspired by my model and built a similar car. Then, in order to get rid of some white parts and Ferrari wheels, he built another copy to sell. He mentioned that this was a (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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We have 7 Idea Books up for auction: Lego Idea Book 697 from 1997 w/ Stickers (URL) Idea Book 6000 from 1980 w/ Stickers !! (URL) Idea Book 260 from 1990 w/ Stickers (URL) Idea Book 250 from 1987 w/ Stickers (URL) Idea Book 226 from 1981 (URL) Idea (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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I think this is more accurately treated as a work of art, _not_ an invention. Let me quote Rogers v. Koons and Sonnabend Gallery, Inc. (960 F.2d 301, cert. denied 113 S. Ct. 365). Artist Jeff Koons purchased a notecard with a photograph of a couple (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) Correct. According to the U.S. Copyright Office: "Copyright, a form of intellectual property law, protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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"Ray Silva" <socalray@cox.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:H7v817.I2E@lugnet.com... (...) detail (...) about (...) No you are not, and I am still waiting for a comment from Bram about WHAT he is concerned. (...) built (...) This is exactly the (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) the creator of a (...) IANAL, and it's been at least a decade since I read a book on copyright law, but at least in the US copyrights exist as soon as the work is created. In other countries things are different; for example, many require the (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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Heavy. In my gut I know this kinda thing suckz. Its hard to put in words. Bare with me. I'd be a little put off too if its true what you suspect. When using Lego to represent certain shapes, contours and designs, for us, using the various shapes and (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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Am I the only that is wondering why we are talking about this to the detail that we are since Lamborghini should be the one that should be worried about an image that I would venture to guess that they own a copyright to? Also, aren't there a very (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) This doesn't make much sense to me. If I create a sculpture, for example, I own the copyright to the sculpture, because it is a unique creative work, right? So if I build a MOC, I have the copyright to the MOC, not just the pictures of it... (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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"TooMuchDew" <wtoenjes@attbi.com> wrote in message news:H7v0uI.42r@lugnet.com... (...) piece (...) Yea, straight to me with the address and phone number of the person who buys it. :)) -- Lego is not a toy: it's a way of life! Build on! (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general)
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(...) To inject a bit of levity here, see: (URL) the notice (URL)copyright..you are not allowed to copy my design and try to (...) Not wanting to be at all mean-spirited here (I'm guessing by the spelling errors this is a younger poster) but at (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general)
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| | Intellectual property and the Internet (Was "Borrowed" Lamborghini Diablo design on Ebay.de)
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The thread about the borrowed Lamborghini Diablo design illustrates some significant issues about intellectual property (IP) and the Internet. The facts of the matter are ... 1) content on the Internet can be accessed worldwide (we all know this, I (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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Buy up to 18 units starting at $4.00 US a piece! (URL) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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(...) Hi Jon, Actually, I don't see any problem with doing that! I would be flattered if someone found one of my ideas worthy of selling! Personally, I don't even care if they give me credit or not. Who's to say someone else didn't come up with the (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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I don't think it's wrong to sell the service of actually contructing a derivative work for someone, as long as the proper credit is given, but I would and have directly contacted the creators for projects I've executed or even just thought about... (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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We have listed tons of Lego Instant purchase Lego goods in our Ebay store. Check them all out at the Link below: (URL) our website for info on the huge JANUARY 4th Listing day coming soon. We have over 500 LBS of Lego in stock ready to be listed. (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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(...) Taking a look at both constructions, I definitely see a lot of similarities abounding between both models, so I find it very difficult for anyone to argue that this isn't a copy, In which I believe it is. For the record, here's what I found to (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(URL) lots, 10 helmets/hairpieces each, opening bid $1.00 each. Ending next Thursday. E-mail with any questions. Thanks - Mark (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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I see a lot of differences between the two as well. They are both the same car and the same scale, and are going to look a lot alike if done well. I wouldn't be suprised if he saw yours beforehand and got a few ideas, but I don't really think it's a (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) just (...) motors. (...) What exactly do you want? He has every right to do what he is doing. (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) Not a brick is the same? Oh come now. The techniques to make the side air intakes and rear wheel fenders are IDENTICAL. That being said, there are enough differences that you could probably try to argue that they were independently designed, (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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In my opinion this is a direct copy. The only reason this differs at all from Bram's is probably because he couldn't get all the parts he wanted. To say that Bram's Diablo is a rendition of the real car is totally beside the point. Bram spent hours (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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"Bram Lambrecht" <bram@cwru.edu> skrev i meddelandet news:H7rM1y.DFD@lugnet.com... (...) (URL) (...) As far as I can see, not a brick is the same in the two constructions! Just because yours is the first one you've seen in Lego, you shouldn't (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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About this copying thing; has anybody thought of the copyrigt from Lamborghini company?? :) Some of you try to make money on their nice design and well known name. But I'll agree with Matthias, both designs look a bit alike at first, but with closer (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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I am new here, but what is it you actually complain about? SO having tried to copy your design? Isn't that what happens every day in eBay that people sell things they have not invented? They even swap parts and still claim that it is the same as set (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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(...) Probably not what you want to hear, but I think that the two designs are quite different enough from each other...different enough to believe that the one for auction is a completely unique design, created without knowledge of yours. After (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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Saw this on Brickshelf: (URL) found this to get a closer look at the design: (URL) compare the photos to these: (URL) me, it looks like he tried to copy my design as close as he could, and just changed a few things to make his choice of wheels fit (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.de)
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Hi all, I'm still alive. It's been a couple of years since I've posted. Anyway, I got laid off recently, so I'm letting go of some of my older sets and many new parts to pay rent. Too much to list, so I'll just put the link to the page of all my (...) (22 years ago, 26-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | CRANE WAGONS VILLA AND BARRACUDA ENDING TOMORROW
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hello Here are some of my current auctions (no reserve) ending on December 23rd Lego Pirates #6285 Black Seas Barracuda 1989 only 22,50 Lego System #6374 Holiday Home - Villa 1983 only 26 Lego Technic #8853 Excavator / Digger 1988 only 18,27..... (...) (22 years ago, 22-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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Auction: (2 URLs) 6 Bionicles including a Happy Meal box (unused) and all in their poly bags unopened. Postage worldwide is approx $5 Email me for any more info... Mel :) (22 years ago, 22-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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Hi all, I have many auctions ending in a few hours; if you're interested,take a look here: (click on "show all auction items" under the "clearance sale" logo) (URL) Luck !! Gianluca ___...___ Mio Yahoo!: personalizza Yahoo! come piace a te (URL) (22 years ago, 21-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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(URL) love a sense of humor... Steve Martin IndyLUG (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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MISB LEGO TECHNICS SPACE SHUTTLE 8480 (URL) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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Its still at a very LOW price! Check it out: (URL) (22 years ago, 20-Dec-02, to lugnet.market.auction)
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