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| | | That's it. It's over. Bush is the president and the Republicans own everything. Who'd have thought that a vote for Nader really *was* a vote for Bush... Canada, do you think you have room for a defecting American? -Jeremiah- (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.loc.us)
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| | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | Ah, ah, ah! Don't say it's over until the final vote is counted. 630 votes difference in the state of Florida does not mean the election is over. You forget that the most Democratic areas of the state have yet to be counted. Popular vote does count. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Jeremiah VanderMark
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| | | | | | | (...) OK, I'll admit it - I may have jumped the gun in my sorrow :c) I remain *cautiously* optimistic, as I have heard they (the Democrats, and probably the Greens, too) have called for a recount. I guess this could take days, weeks, even *months* (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | (...) <snip> (...) Well, swing thru Seattle on your way so I can at least meetcha before you leave. ;^) ~Mark "Muffin Head" Sandlin (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | | | | (...) No problem, since Vancouver would be my final destination...VLC-here I come! ;-) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | (...) Let's see, what will the country be like if Gore wins... hmmm.... OK, what will it be like if Bush wins... hmmm.... Oh, heck. I'm heading for Australia *now*, to beat the rush. Steve (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | "Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:4m7j0t4jiq8pn2s...4ax.com... (...) what (...) You really wanna spend *that* much on LEGO? ;-) <grin, duck, & run> -- Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com (URL) - Centralized LDraw Resources (URL) (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —David Low
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| | | | | | (...) You'd be surprised to know that since all our politicians are honest, respectable and genuine it's worth paying US$25 for <set:3409 a soccer field>. --DaveL (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) But you can't order them from S@H until 2004! 8^) Dave! (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Peter White
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| | | | | | (...) Dave.L, don't tell them about the phonecard or travel rorts or the 'tripod' incident. Anyway with the TRU 25% off sale, the 3409's are AU$37.37, which is equivalent to US$19. I bought six to go with the two I already had. I am creating a huge (...) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Rick Kujawa
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| | | | | Timmy for President!!?? With the election this close a vote for Nader is a vote for Nader. Gore is winning the popular vote by 277,000 votes. Whoever wins Florida however, wins the Electoral vote and is thus the President no matter what the popular (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | | (...) True. I don't dispute this. However a 1/30th of 1% lead is tenuous at best. (...) Perhaps, but that would take an amendment to the Constitution as a best-case scenario. Worst case being a re-write of the COnstitution which I don't believe is (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Rick Kujawa
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| | | | | | (...) Brocaw Brocaw. He's off by now. Hey der (practicing my Canadian), Not sure the smaller states would become irrelevant, they would still get added to the total popular vote. Or the Electoral college could change to an apportioned system like a (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | | (...) Yes, but as a candidate running for office, would you spend your war chest in Los Angeles or Des Moines? Chicago or Olympia? My point is that you'd spend your money where there is a greater concentration of people so as to reach a larger (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Rick Kujawa
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| | | | | | (...) Prolly. (...) I won't bother to respond to that. ;-} (...) Oui, Except I do like their salad dressing. Is this going to turn into a valley vs. the beach argument? ;-} Peace out. (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Dave Johann
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| | | | | | (...) Nah. We both know which is better, the one that NEVER sees snow... -Dave (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Erik Olson
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| | | | | You put too much importance on politics. I'm encouraged this morning because it looks like four more years of gridlock! The thing Ross Perot taught us was BAD! is the only outcome that can keep us at all safe from ravenous power-hungry politicians (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) That's funny. Me too. (...) Except for that crack about 3rd parties, I'm with you. Further, we should initiate impeachment procedings right away. Clinton lied and he had to go through it, so why not whichever of these two boobs wins too? If we (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | (...) No it's not. Although there is some difference between Gore and Bush, they're both corporatists, they both want to increase military spending, they both support the death penalty, etc., etc., etc. A vote for Nader is *not* chosing the lesser (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Jeremiah VanderMark
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| | | | | | | (...) Ah, but you've got to look at the rest of the government right now - Republican Senate and House, and, should Bush win, more Rep judges. That's a big step backwards this country doesn't need. -Jeremiah- (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | (...) While I agree with you to an extent I wouldn't worry too much in that while the Republican's will have a majority in the House and Senate it is not enough of a majority to do whatever they want. Especially in the Senate the Dem's have enough (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Jeremiah VanderMark
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| | | | | | | | (...) Ventura 2004!!! :c) Really, though. If he ran, I and the majority of people I've talked to would vote for him. -Jeremiah- (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —David Low
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| | | | | | | (...) I was quite shocked by some of the liberal commentary on this. The two-party (equals one-party) system is pretty entrenched in Australia too, but no-one goes around saying that a vote for a third party is some sort of "betrayal". If Gore (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Low writes: <snip> (...) Very true. Gore *should* have destroied Bush. He made several missteps along the way and I personally think he should have enlisted the help of Clinton more. Just about everyone I know, (...) (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Well, it's choosing a totally different sort of evil, one could say. :-) But the basic point that a vote for a third party candidate is a thrown away vote is VERY entrenched in certain circles, and it's wrong. It's extremely unfortunate that (...) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Jim Hughes
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| | | | | | | (...) Or to put it another way the election was not about choosing the lesser of 2 evils but the evil of 2 lessers :) Having voted straight libertarian I am today watching the outcome of the presidential race with sheer joy! --Jim (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | (...) Whoo, I agree with Larry. :) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) The system the way it is set up (winner takes all - I'm refering to virtually all political elections in the U.S.) encourages just two parties, and the blandifying of positions. Say the Green party gains momentum and strips liberal votes away (...) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Jason Brown
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| | | | | (...) You're a little ahead of yourself, it all depends on the recount in Florida, anything can still happen. (...) I thought about that, but Canada isn't MUCH better. I was thinking more Austrailia myself, assuming I didn't put too many i's in it. (24 years ago, 8-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Joseph Andersen
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| | | | | | (...) Just one, but we've got room for illiterate yank hillbillies ;) (so long as they bring their lego sets) Joe from Australia (24 years ago, 10-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: It's All Over... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | (...) It ain't over till the fat lady sings. That is, till the fat and thin blue haired ladies in Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties sing. I am geting happier and happier about this outcome, now I hear (in the UK press, but what do they know) (...) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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