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| | | This thread seems to have engendered a lot of discussion. Not all of it is for the long term good of the community, I fear, which is regrettable. I'm hopeful that this post might slow some of it down. I have asked Dan privately to be reinstated. (...) (20 years ago, 23-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate) !!
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| | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | Wow. 2500+ words! Is an executive summery available? (...) IMHO this whole thing should have stayed private. Scott A PS Was cross posting to .general really req'd? (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | (...) What I find really sad in all of this is, though you're toeing a line and being consistent in your arguments, you're *really* using this incident as an opportunity to stick it to Larry. Pathetic, but expected. -Tim (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | (...) Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. Scott, you ought to be ashamed. Chris (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops- —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) If you mean I'm not brown-nosing Larry: you are correct! However, read my posts; you'll see that all I'm doing is urging for some realism. I'm not suggesting Larry be banned for life or anything silly like that. Nor am I suggesting that Dan is (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops- —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) Rarely, anymore. Why? Chris (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) I'm not sure I agree; I wish this whole thing had stayed private. That said, think about this: what do you think Larry would have done if the tables were turned? Scott A (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | (canceled) —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | (...) I believe honestly that if Larry saw exactly what played out leading up to his banning happen to you or Richard, he would support reinstating the banned member because of their earnest attempt to act in good faith in the situation (regardless (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | This whole situation is so unfortunate on so many levels. Dan seems upset that Larry is trying to use Bricklink in a way that he doesn't intend (even though the TOS doesn't seem to address the gray area of stores imposing "terms and conditions" on (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Jamie Dunn
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| | | | | | | (...) Personally, I see it as resolved now. Almost all of us can all still buy or sell. Follow the rules. It can be debated all we want, but to me, it is resolved. (and I stress - To Me) Jamie Jamie (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | | | (...) Larry didn't break any rule spelled out in the TOS. That's the problem. He broke an "unwritten rule" and when he tried to fix the problem, he found that he was still breaking some "unwritten rule". When one enters into such an agreement (like (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —David Laswell
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| | | | | | (...) Given the vast number of sellers who do just that (especially in terms of S&H/insurance surcharges), without getting into trouble over it, I'm guessing from that that it's okay to say "If you buy X, you must also buy Y", but that it's not okay (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Ross Crawford
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| | | | | | | (...) This is now not possible, as Bricklink has been changed (URL) to allow buyers to add the remainder to their cart, even if it's not a multiple of the bulk amount. That is I believe what prompted Lar to enter the description that caused this (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Jeff Findley
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| | | | | | (...) I read the TOS again yesterday and didn't see any of this mentioned. Again, I think it's unfortunate that the TOS doesn't spell out what types of additional rules are allowed and what types aren't. (...) I have a feeling that this wouldn't be (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Pat Shepard
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| | | | | I believe Larry's actions were entirely appropriate, and those of Dan completely inappropriate and unprofessional. Though I am not a high profile Bricklink customer (I've only spent a few hundred there), I will not shop there unless and until his (...) (20 years ago, 24-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Jamie Dunn
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| | | | | | (...) I understand your point, but this in no way would effect my shopping on bricklink (and I suspect MOST others). Jamie (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) I don't understand _your_ point. Is it that people are weak or inconsiderate? Chris (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Johannes Koehler
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| | | | | | Hello! (...) I assume people just don't bother with an affair that is nothing to anybody but Admin and Lar. BrickLink is still the best source for LEGO parts. Solidarity with either Admin or Lar doesn't help anybody at all. First of all not my (...) (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Jeremy Rear
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| | | | | In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote: (major snip) All of you AFOLs have way too much time on your hands regarding this issue. :-) -jeremy (20 years ago, 25-Aug-04, to lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX) !
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| | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Brendan Coughlin
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| | | | Can somebody PLEASE tell me why this crap deserves to be a "Top News Story"?!?! Is it because it is Larry and he is "such a valued AFOL"? Give me a break. Keep issues as stupid as this one between whoever had a shop closed and the Bricklink admin. I (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate) !
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| | | | | | Re: suspended Bricklink shops —Tim Courtney
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| | | | (...) Top news stories are member-selected. Paid LUGNET members can highlight or spotlight posts which causes them to be listed in the top stories. So, the post is at the top of the list because enough LUGNET members thought it was important for (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: Un-spotlight? (was: suspended Bricklink shops) —Ross Crawford
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| | | | (...) Which gets me thinking, why not also have a "un-spotlight" function? Not to remove a spot light I've previously set (which I can already do), but to subtract from the spotlights of others (subtract 100 or whatever from its points value). So if (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.brickshops, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general) !!
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| | | | | | Re: Un-spotlight? —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | (...) I think that originally, there was the possibility to set negative, as well as positive ratings on a post. However, this was soon removed, to avoid the negative carma associated with rating a post down. Fredrik (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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