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| | | What you say? Have you ever looked at the instructions for set 378 (1972): (URL) my count from the instructions that set has a whopping 30 parts and the tractor frame is more juniorized than anything which exists today. I just received a LEGO lot (...) (24 years ago, 16-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Ronald Vallenduuk
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| | | | | NO! I don't agree. The tractor frame is kinda big, but couldn't be made from separate bricks. It added something otherwise impossible: steering. Apart from the steering wheel it's pretty close to 'normal' bricks. Compare that to those five-'brick' (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | (...) It isn't obvious from the instructions that the steering wheel is connected to the front wheel brick. The piece is still a SPUD. My point though is that the use of large special purpose parts is not new at all. My point has always been that (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Benjamin Medinets
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| | | | | | I want to add my two cents in here. 1st off...the set in question uses standard 4X2 bricks, a steering wheel, and the shovel assembly, some wheels. Yes, it does have the style of today's juniorization. A lot of the sets in the mid to late 70's (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) Um, according to my instructions, 378 has exactly one standard 2x4 brick. It also has a 1x2 brick, a 1x2 tile, a 2x2 brick, a printed 1x2 brick, 2 2x4 plates, a 1x1 cylinder, 2 4x8 plates, and a 2x8 plate for "basic" bricks and plates. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Benjamin Medinets
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| | | | | | | | I tried to take that into consideration in my post, but I don't think you totally got that impression... While there are some special pieces in several (well a lot of) town models, my ultimate point was that within the period of 1980 and 1996, there (...) (24 years ago, 17-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | (...) That is perhaps so, but again, my main point is that many people seem to think that SPUDs and POOPs are something of the 90s. They aren't. Heck, in some ways, SPUDs have been with LEGO since before the advent of the tube. Windows and doors (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Benjamin Medinets
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| | | | | | | | | | Great....sounds like we are hitting some common ground. Not to detract from what you've said, and I've purposely erased the previous messages just so I can add one more highlight. I think SPUD's and POOP's are (were) a great marketing tool for Lego. (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Bradley Dale
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| | | | | | | | (...) FREESTYLE? What an awful bunch of parts that introduced! Elephant head SPUDs, horse head SPUDs, doggy head SPUDs, those awful printed faces and patterns on some of the rounded-top bricks, oversized and ugly doors and windows that don't fit (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | (...) There were minifig Freestyle sets also. Freestyle/Classic/Basic in the past several years have always had a range of sets. The SPUDlike pieces come in the 3+ sets. The minifig Freestyle sets were an awesome source of 1x4x3 windows in colors (...) (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Bradley Dale
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| | | | | | | (...) Well, the mini-figs basically just sit on top of the smaller 1997 models (due to lack of doors, windshields, roofs...), and you could do that with 1977 too. (24 years ago, 18-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Gary Istok
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| | | | | | ben medinets wrote: (snip) (...) (snip) (...) OK Ben, I have to disagree with you on this one, but it is definitely a case of "one man's junk is another man's treasure". I think that the 1970's did have a lot of useless sets. But I think that some (...) (24 years ago, 20-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Nearly 30 Years of Juniorization! —Simon Bennett
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| | | | Just an point you may find interesting... (...) I'm pretty sure 378 was the first set I was bought. 385 uses the steering frame element and as two copies of that in my collection survived the great parental purge of my dark ages I use the steering (...) (24 years ago, 19-Mar-01, to lugnet.general)
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